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garnet4david2001
22nd July 2006, 04:52
Getting Women's Numbers And Getting Dates
POst some COmments or Sucessful Stories please


***SUCCESS STORY***

Hi Dave,

After reading your book, I put many of your tactics
into action. I work in a casino, so I get to meet
a lot of beautiful young women. Once I got over the
initial reluctance to ask them for their email/phone
number, I started getting quite a few numbers in a
night.

The other night there was a woman who was so gorgeous,
it hurt. I walked over and chatted with her for a
few minutes, then asked if she had email. She said
"Sure, I do! Let me write it down for you." Without
asking she put down her phone number as well. The
younger guys who work for me now call me a "God".
They have no idea how I can do it. Better looking
guys are complaining that I get more phone numbers
and emails in one night than they've got their whole
lives.

One of the women was classic. She looked like Sheryl
Crow and Jennifer Aniston combined. She complained she
wasn't winning on the machine and asked me what the
secret was. I said, "I don't know the secret today,
but if I figure it out, I'll email it to you. All I
need now is your email address and your phone number
in case email is down." She was taken aback, but asked
for my pen and wrote it down.

Now instead of being alone on my days off, I have
a lot of options which are all great ones. Thanks
for your advice and changing me out of wuss mode.

I.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Options are great, aren't they?

And isn't it amazing how a woman will give out her
email and number if you just talk for a few minutes
and then ask for it?

I can remember when I first started learning this
stuff... it seemed to that no woman in her right mind
would just give out her phone number to a complete
stranger...

But then I discovered that no woman is actually IN
her right mind! (Or at least this is my logical deduction,
because they all seem to give out their phone numbers
and email addresses so readily!)

But to get back to the concept of "options"...

When you, as a guy, have options, it changes EVERYTHING.

When you have a date that evening plus three women
to email or call, things are TOTALLY DIFFERENT than
when you have nothing going on.

You feel different, you talk different, and you communicate
in a different way.

I believe that one of the reasons that attractive
women come across so powerfully is because they KNOW
that they have options.

And one of the benefits of learning how to be more
successful with women and dating is that you learn
to CREATE YOUR OWN OPTIONS. When you know that you
can walk out the door anytime you want and meet women,
it frees up a lot of mental energy that was previously
focused on other things. Energy you can use to improve
other areas of your life...

Thanks for your email... it's inspiring.



***QUESTION***


Hey, David.

I've read DYD, have been getting your newsletters,
totally understand what's going on. I've seen it
working, and know it's for real. But I've got a BIG
problem. I've got to recondition myself from more
years than I care to admit of doing things the wrong
way.

I always idolized superheroes like Batman & Superman
who always acted with the utmost respect and decorum.
Like musclebound male versions of Miss Manners. My
heroes were modest, reliable, helpful, well-mannered,
and strong (OK -- they're not *totally* lame). Definitely
not *cocky*. I always *hated* mouthy guys who are
all show and no go.

As for sex, in my younger years it was Catholic
training: everything sexual was *evil* (unless you're
a priest hitting on the altar boys), and I was so
naive and mixed up I really thought I was going to
*hell*.

After I wised up and dropped that it was *sexual
harassment* that I kept hearing about all the time.
The message I got then is that it's not OK to be sexual
until you're already going with someone. Of course
now I know that that only applies to man who a woman
is NOT ATTRACTED TO.

OK, so now I *understand*. But am still reflexively
*doing* the same wrong things. What's the best way
to actually go about reconditioning my *behavior*?
I can be a good smartass when I have the right stimuli,
but what's the best way to practice loosening up with
the sex talk? I don't want to klutz things up with
awkward, forced attempts on women who *are* good prospects.
I can be cool enough to get dates, but want to take
it to the next level. The best thing I can think of
is either to practice on female *friends* I've already
written off or go to places I don't really care to
hang around regularly, like techno-disco meat markets
where I probably couldn't be as crude and crass as
the average ass-grabber if I slammed a fifth of Daniels
and *tried*.

This may apply to a lot of other guys who are "struggling
with the material." Any better ideas how to get through
the learning curve as quickly as possible without
poisoning one's reputation by being tagged an uber-klutz?

FB

Michigan


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well, you say that you've read my book, but you need
to go back through it... remember, it's a reference
manual, to be referred to again and again... not a
fictional book to be used as entertainment.

If I were you, I'd get online and start chatting with
women with instant messenger services and/or in chatrooms,
as I describe in Chapter 7.

Bust on them, tease them, talk about every topic you
can think of, including sex (make sure you're talking
to women who are of legal age, by the way!).

You'll find that starting conversations with women
online and practicing your skills is a lot move convenient
when you can do it from the comfort of your computer.

And you'll see... it's very easy to talk about any
topic with women. Get over your pre-conceived ideas,
and just do it.

And get over this worshipping Batman, dude. Didn't
you see the Saturday Night Live skits where they were
mocking him and Robin as the "Ambiguously *** Duo?"

Not good role-models, man.



***COMMENT***

Dave my man,

I've been reading your advice for a while now and
I have to laugh because I discovered several years
ago cocky and funny really work. I am naturally cocky
and a smartass to boot, so it usually worked, but
not always. Then, my buddy told me something that
drives 'em wild. The dude is 6'3" and 300 lbs, and
he always had a good looking woman on his arm. His
advice: Show a little interest, then ignore them.
Of course I over simplified it, but you know what
I mean. How many men have said that you can't pick
up women in a topless bar? I did all the time, and
rarely spent any more money than on drinks for myself.
The other guys are feeding the girls dollar bills
and getting no where. I'm just an average looking
guy, but the honies went for it like mad. You are
on the mark and anyone that has problems meeting women
should heed your advice.

PS: I love the way you bust on the chicks that write
to you and say how wrong you are!

D.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

lol... thanks!

Yes, women really love it when you show some interest,
but then don't hang on them. Women, and especially
attractive women, LOVE a good challenge. It's fun
for them.

And yes, I do enjoy emails from women... both positive
and negative. I just wish more women would write me!
(And I wish that when they did write that they'd send
PICTURES! I have gotten a few, but cummon!)



***QUESTION***

Wasssup!! I just have to tell ya that i think your
a god to all guys out there who have trouble with
women! I've been reading your e-mails for about two
months now and i gotta tell ya, your a genius!! I
haven't even purchased the book yet but everything
you say makes perfect sense. So i have decided to
purchase Double Your Dating. I can't wait to see how
it works out. I have the hardest time meeting women
and the bad thing about it is most girls think im
good looking. But they think im boring.

Here's my question to you. Im not sure about the
whole c&f thing, how do i be cocky yet not come across
as an a&*hole? And I've really never been the funny
type of guy i just don't know how without saying or
doing something that might make me look like a wussy.
Can you help a bro out PLEASE?

DW-ks


>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, here's the basic formula for Cocky and Funny:

Take an arrogant comment, then add humor.

It's a killer combination. The key is that it HAS
TO BE FUNNY. It actually has to make others laugh.

You must make sure that you are Cocky enough, because
if you're only FUNNY, then you will come across as
GOOFY, which isn't what you want.

So, for instance, you might be at a bar, and you're
having a drink. Let's say your drink has too much
alcohol in it, and you're going to comment on it.

An arrogant comment might be:

"This bartender sucks. There's too much booze in my
drink."

Add a touch of humor, and it turns into:

"Whoa, this bartender either loves me or is trying
to kill me. This drink is pure alcohol. Is there an
AA meeting nearby? Cuz I'm gonna need it when I'm
done with this one."

You feel me?

It's the COMBINATION that makes Cocky and Funny work
like magic. Too little or too much of either and you
will come off as an idiot.

And remember, have fun. Practice is what will help
you improve.



***QUESTION***

Dave,

Man, life has changed over the last 4 months since
grabbing your book and applying C&F! My friends are
amazed at how many women I am dating and life is great!
One of the most important points I have followed from
you is breaking down the whole pickup/dating/score
routine and approaching each part as a skill I must
learn. Got past the email/phone number part, past
the first date and first kiss part, and finally the
step towards intimacy. But alas, I'm down to the
one skill that I have problems with and that I've
never seen you really address:

The graceful exit skill...

Let me explain...OK, I meet a girl, we go out, maybe
we end up in each other's arms, maybe not, but there
comes a point when I just want to end it and move
on to another girl. I always get nervous with the
"Well, it's been fun, but we this isn't going to work
out so have a good life..." Do I call and leave a
voice mail? Do I phone her? Do I break it off face-to-face?
What's the confident, C&F way to leave a girl and
not have PLAYER stamped onto my forehead because of
it?

Loving life, S.R.

P.S. You should pay people for referrals as I have
got about 10 of my friends to buy your book! HA HA


>>>MY COMMENTS:

You're a very, very, very bad man.

In the best way possible, of course.

I think the key to dating more than one woman, or
to not seeing a woman more than once or twice is to
NOT ACT LIKE YOU'RE HER BOYFRIEND FROM THE BEGINNING.

Women will only resent you if you mislead them. So
don't. It's not necessary.

Just have fun, be straight up, and enjoy yourself.

You don't have to break something off if it never
was "something" to begin with. Are you with me?

The big mistake is to call twice a day, see her five
times a week, act like her long lost love, and then
drop her without explanation. I think you get what
I'm saying.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,

I have been subscribing to the newsletter for about
6 or 8 months and have purchased your ebook a couple
after subscribing. Your information has been invaluable
and well worth the price. It has completely changed
the way I look at women, I never pine over them anymore
and wonder "what's wrong with me". Now I know what
was wrong with me, I was a wuss! But that's all changed
now and have become the Jedi Master. I've even come
up with some Jedi Techniques of my own.

At any rate, I met this one girl at a party one
night who I knew came with a few acquaintances of
mine who I told about the party. I got to talking
to her and we talked for a few minutes and poured
on the C&F, but I never got her info. I know, I know,
the 3 minute technique, but I knew I could obtain
it from her friends, and the way she interacted with
me, I knew she wouldn't have minded at all (Important
Note: this is my success story, I wouldn't recommend
doing things like this unless you have developed the
confidence that your book helps teach). Well, I never
had to even asked her friends because two days later,
she ended up looking me up in the University's online
student directory and then she looked up my IM name
and IMed me with a "mysterious person" message. I
immediately figured out it was her and then accused
her of stalking me and told her that's pretty illegal.
She almost thought I was mad at her! It was great!
Anyways, she is a real quality girl (not to mention
about a 9, not perfect, but gorgeous nonetheless) and
we set something up to go play pool at a local bar
where I again poured it on thick. Now mind you, I
hadn't made any big advances or anything but as she
dropped me off back home, she came in to use the bathroom.
After she came out, she wrapped her arms around me
and let me have a little taste. I said goodnight to
her and that was that night. A few nights later, I
told her I was going to be cooking and that she should
come over which leads me to...

***Tip 1***
One of the best techniques is to invite a girl
over for dinner at your place, especially if you
know how to cook. I find that many women don't know
how to cook or only "cook" stuff like Mac and Cheese
and other junk. The best part about this is they get
to see your skill, which is pretty attractive to women
when you can make a good meal, and you have the most
control because it is your own place. The other part,
is make sure you don't start making dinner until she
is already at your place, she's not getting an entirely
free meal! Make her help. If she refuses, use the C&F
techniques and have her do something. Put her on a
task that's not too difficult so she can't mess it
up. For example, if you're making lasagna, make her
grate cheese or something (making her wash dishes is
rather insulting unless you're doing most of them and
she wants to help, which she just might). And when
you're all done with dinner, take it to the couch and
turn on the TV or watch a movie or something. Which
brings me to...

***Tip 2***
If you're sitting down next to a girl that you're
talking to in a private setting and you get a little
of that silence, not the awkward kind, but the kind
where you just kind of look at each other. If you're
thinking to yourself "should I be kissing her?".
The answer is a screaming "YES". This can be preceded
by the "kiss Test" as well, but I know a lot of guys
will still have insecurities about this kind of thing.
Think about it this way. If you don't kiss her, then
she'll probably think you're a wuss because you don't
have the balls to do something she probably wants you
to anyways. After talking with a number of my girl-friends,
I've found out that if a guy tries to kiss a girl,
unless there is an obvious unattraction, she will most
likely go with the kiss. At any rate, in this day
and age, she's not going to slap you and walk out the
door. It's not like you grabbed her crotch or something.

***Tip 3***
MC from the Mediterranean asked a question about
calling the next day. I just wanted to point out you
have already answered this question in some form and
you know what to do! You can generally sense if a
girl is sensitive about something like that. If not,
send her some sort of message that next day, preferably
email, but if you're on the phone, have something
you're on the way to or busy with. Call, say "hi"
and that you had a great time, don't ask how she's
doing or what she thinks about what or if she had a
good time, but find some way to use C&F to make a light
conversation that will keep her wondering and even
thinking about you. Don't bring up the sex unless
she does so in a favorable manner.

***Tip 4***
Not so much a getting girls technique, but rather
something you need to do alone. In your spare time
or even when doing mindless tasks, go over your past
failed attempts when you have a clear head about them
and think about what happened. You'd be surprised
at how easy it is to find the things that went wrong.
You'll also be surprised to find out that these are
probably mistakes you make all the time! This is
the best way to recognize the problem and rectify it
so that its not repeated.

Your techniques are nearly priceless and have
stroked the confidence of guys everywhere. I've
even recommended it to friends that have some serious
wuss problems. I have yet to see if they've taken
it to heart or even subscribed, but I'll help them
yet! Things are going great with that girl and I know
it wouldn't have happened if it weren't for your book.
Its now become second nature, and you get all the
credit.

Thanks again Dave
Your once Jedi Apprentice, now Master,
D.M.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Great ideas... great.

Nothing else needs to be said...

Except that you stole those ideas from me, hoser.

Nice!



***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,

I'd just like to say your book helped in my confidence
level and my cocky/funny routine. I have always been
funny and was always successful at making women laugh.
I had the problem of, well, closing the deal. I would
strike the conversation, make them laugh, and just
joke with em, but could never get their #. And I would
never ask at the right times, being shot down was a
large part of my night.

After reading your book, I met and talked to this
girl online. At this point I didnt care about relationships
or anything. I just wanted to have fun. So we talk
about 3 days online, and I called her maybe 1 time
and asked her to lunch. The whole lunch I am making
her laugh and break out a little of the cocky routine.
She's laughing and we both having a good time. Later
this month it will be 6 months that we've been together
and I just recently was told, that she tried everything
she knew the first 2 weeks to turn me on. Shes easily
a "8-9" and any other man would have given in and been
the "proverbial" wussy. Let me tell you cocky/funny/un-clingy
= ATTRACTION. It works, it really does! Thanks for
the confidence boost. I just have to give you kudos
to what you have discovered here. I think you have
solved the "8th" wonder of the world: Women and dating.

You da man
K.N. Ohio


>>>MY COMMENTS:

You're welcome...

And you're right: Most attractive women DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE HELL TO DO when they meet a guy that is charming,
funny, "un-clingy" and in control of himself and the
situation.

They get turned on, they think about you all the
time, and they generally feel a level of ATTRACTION
that they can't control (and don't want to control,
because they love it!).

Good job, and I'm glad to hear that you've found a
nice girl for yourself. MAKE SURE YOU DON'T TURN INTO
A WUSS-BAG and screw it up!



***QUESTION***

hey dave,

you are really the man! i started reading your
material and realized what i wuss i had been with
the one girl i dated. before we were dating i was
textbook cocky and funny, but after we were dating
i became super-wuss man and i became "just a friend".
well every girl since then has been absoultely begging
for my attention (even girls i meet online that live
hundreds of miles away that i practice on). i have
two or three girls call everyday but i'm always too
"busy" to talk for very long (hey i have to watch
my sportscenter) i was on an airplane to NYC when
this hott girl sits down in the seat next to me (i
was window and she was aisle) i had my laptop out
and when she sat down i acted like i didnt notice.
well a few minutes later i had to put away my laptop
so i pulled out a book and began reading it. she then
pulls out makeup (yes makeup) and starts putting it
on in the plane. i gave her a funny look and said
"didnt you have time to do that at home?"

Her: "(laughing) i did have time, but i didnt want
to. all i'm doing today is flying."
Me: "oh i see...(pause) you're lazy."
Her: "no i'm not"
Me: "sure you are. but then you saw me and decided
you want to look good right?
Her: (just laughs)
Me: "hey, dont worry about it... nothing new to me."
Her: "(laughs) well i mean..."
Me: "(interruping her) it's fine! dont be
embarrassed. you're not the first woman to
try and pick me up this morning."
Her: "(still giggling) how can you be so mean to a
complete stranger?"

now i'm stuck... i didnt have anything left to
say... so i just said "i dont know" and (luckily)
she continued the conversation and i eventually got
her email and number and everything. but if you could
tell me something cocky and funny that i could have
used to respond to that it would be much appreciated.
thanks!

J. from OK


>>>MY COMMENTS:

lol... you get it all, and you're trying to tell me
that you didn't know what to say in this situation?

How about this:

After she said "How can you be so mean to a complete
stranger?" you could have said:

"I'm not being mean at all, I'm just trying to let
you know that it hurts my feelings when you treat me
like a sex object... like a piece of meat to be used
for your entertainment... can't you just get to know
me for who I am? And then later use all the makeup
tricks to seduce me?"

There are all kinds of directions you could go with
this... you were doing great.

Just make sure you always end by turning it around,
playing hard to get, and getting the email/number.

Try this:

"OK, look. You're nice and everything, but you're
moving a little too fast for me. Here... here's a
pen. Write down your email address and number, and
maybe we can talk on the phone later... then we'll
see."

Or if you want to get together right after you get
off the plane, say:

"Hey, I'll tell you what. I see that you only want
to use me for my charm... but why don't we have a
drink tonight so I can find out if there's more to
you than just the makeup and cheap lines."

You're doing great.



***COMMENT***

hi david,

i don't know if my story fits in with your success
story, but here it is for what it's worth. as a 50
year old dutchman, never been married.....great..
and having lived in holland, the us, mexico, australia,
most parts of asia and now the ast 6 months in china,
i can say one thing, i totally agree with your c&f
concept and also that it is a proven international
concept. even though i don't have your e-book i have
been practising your c&f concept all my life in countries
where the chicks have different cultures and don't
speak english. funny is'nt, yes, the answer is simple,
don't be a WUSSY, girls are the same everywhere it's
just the more you do c&f the easier it gets!

there is not a day or every couple of days that
go by without a number to contact some of these pretty
things 18-25 year olds. sometimes i don't even have
to ask, they give me their numbers to me, why because
i am c&f, rude, unpredictable, then smile, then rude
again and say hey babe just because you give me your
number does not mean we are getting layed tonight,
i am too busy anyway, just give me your number and
maybe i will call you in the next couple of days when
i have time. in china it works slightly differently
because of the language barrier, so i use body and
sign language, think about that one and tend to pick
the babes from the shops or hotels where they work(as
it is easier to get them after work for some fun) same
c&f thing i tell them i'll be back in 2-3 days, very
busy etc. then i drop in the nexy day or so for a quick
hello and tell them again that i'll be back in 2-3 days,
this keeps them curious and hungry. when i get back
i pick them up near closing time, so i know i am set
for the night. the only drawback!! is that as i travel
so much is that i stay mainly in hotels and so they
are knocking on my door for more, often whilst i am
busy with another chick, this creates great c&f scenarios
and the funny thing is they want me even more after
that! so i am having great fun and i still don't know
how manage to get some of my work done. so great work,
david keep it up!

cheers,

s.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

A 50 year old Dutchman that dates 18-25 year olds
all over the world by being naturally Cocky and Funny,
huh?

Nice.

Well thanks for your email, I love stories like yours.
Stay in touch and share some of your techniques with
us!

...and if you're reading this right now and thinking
to yourself "You know, I need to learn this stuff
about how to meet and attract women so I can get rid
of that insecure and fearful feeling I have", then
YOU'RE RIGHT!

I think that every man should invest in himself,
and learn this skill.

Unfortunately, most guys never take the time and
invest in themselves... and they wind up going their
whole lives WISHING that they could attract the kinds
of women that they want.