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garnet4david2001
6th August 2006, 03:36
Meeting Women Online And In Public Places



***QUESTION***

Hey D,

I've been subscribing to the newsletters and just
got your book. Super stuff dude. I've naturally been
C&F to the girls I don't really like but they stick
to me. I've been a super wuss to the ones I like and
it's like trying to stick the same polar ends of a
magnet together.

Lemme share this. I was out with a 6 pointer girl
i met over the net (using your on-line profile of
course!) We met up with a few of my other friends
and went to a club. There, I left my friend to fend
for herself while i got on to meet new people.

There was this hoochie-mama (9.9) and I got talking
with her. Didn't give her any compliments like i would
normally do. I noticed that she was wearing a white/blue
dress but had her toenails painted red. I just said
"Why are your toes red? Don't you know that red and
blue don't match, especially on your toes? You color
blind or something?" Shocker. The look on her was
priceless.

Continued talking and she said "those guys there
are oogling at me non-stop. At which point I said
"Don't be modest. They're just desperate."




Came to a point where I just asked so what's your
number? She just grabbed my mobile and keyed it in
before i could say abracadabra.

The other girl was just observing me and started
to get restless and came over to sit next to me. She
had her head on my shoulders and started to tell the
hoochie-mama that I'm playing THE game. "Hello...Who
invited you into this conversation?" was my response
to that.

Anyway, i decided to leave even though the 9 pointer
kept asking me to follow her to another place. Drove
the other one home and well...she was basically all
over me dude.

Gonna call the mama soon. Any advice. Sorry it's
long but just had to tell. Felt like a million dollars.
And my advice to others is, you really have to live
being C&F and not be overawed by the 9 pointer for you
to get anywhere. Live the book, don't learn it.

Cheers,

A

Far East


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Dude, you're kind of like some kind of combination
of Austin Powers and a bad Hip Hop group.

But I'm feelin' ya flow, dog.

Good job using the online personals material to meet
a cute girl.

A lot of guys pass up the online personal thinking
that only desperate and unattractive women would be
running online personal ads...

Of course, nothing could be further from the truth.

There are all kinds of women online who are running
personal ads... for all different reasons.

And personal ads give you the chance to communicate
on a more "even playing field" with women... you and
she both have to actually COMMUNICATE.

It's good stuff, especially when you're familiar with
the style of communication that you've learned from
my materials.

As far as advice on the "mama", just keep doing what
you're doing.

And DON'T turn into WussBoy as you get to know her.

There's nothing that will kill ATTRACTION faster than
turning into a Girl Man just as she starts to like
you.



***QUESTION***

Mr. DeAngelo

i know you get a lot of questions and things but
i have a dire situation. I have your advanced series
the book and dvd the works... great stuff i love every
minute of it because this comes so natural to me. I
was doing it to everyone already but just not to women
bc my mother brought me up to treat women nice and
buy flowers etc...i don't know where id be had i not
stumbled upon your web site one day.

anyway on to my dire question, this is not for myself
its for my best buddy. Im not sure when, but i suspect
he may have had an operation to remove his balls. His
girlfriend and I are good friends and she and i chat
once in awhile about my friend and how everything is
going. She dropped him off at the airport the other
day, he was leaving to visit family in California...
for THREE days. one, two, three. 3!! AND HE CRIED!
I have done my best to help him by forwarding newsletters
and he understands them when he reads them, but only
in theory, he takes no action. I have even tried to
explain certain things to him. as of late i have
given up. I wasn't sure if you did door to door he
man bitch slap service but i would gladly pay for it.
anyway i don't know how or if you can help but i didn't
know who else to turn to. If there is anything you
recommend i should do please tell me. His gf tells
me hes acting weird lately and smothering her and her
mother has even told him to back away. should i attempt
to tell him this? thanks for anything i did my best
to keep this short.

A.R.
Seattle, Washington


MY COMMENTS:

Well, it sounds to me like YOU'RE not the one who
has the "dire situation".

Sounds like it's your buddy.

I mean, you realize of course that he IS going to
screw this up... and at some point in the future you
ARE going to have to either:

1) Listen to her complain about how he's being a WussBag
and how she doesn't need another girlfriend... she
has plenty.

2) Listen to HIM complain about how she seems to be
acting less and less "happy" in general, and more
and more annoyed at him... even though he's being
"nicer and nicer" to her.

3) Listen to them both whine and complain after she
DUMPS HIS ASS for acting like such a girl.

4) Endure some combination of the above.

Some guys just get so caught up in their emotions
that they refuse to even entertain the idea that they
should be doing things differently.

And, unfortunately, some guys need to learn the hard
way.

Let him read my response to your email. Maybe it will
get his attention.

But it probably won't.

Remember, he's emotionally hypnotized right now, and
there's not much hope that he's going to stop acting
like a Wuss... no matter what.

By the way, a few thoughts on the "mom's teaching
us to be "nice" to women and buy them flowers", and
why they teach us this stuff...

I've thought a lot about this one, and I've even had
many discussions with MY OWN MOM about this.

Of course, my mom thinks that all men should take
women to dinner, buy them things, get them gifts,
and support them financially.

As you can imagine, the conversations that she and
I have are interesting...

But think about it.

Your mom isn't going to say "Well, son... we women
don't have any idea why we feel attraction for men,
but the ones we do feel attraction for are usually
difficult, funny, mysterious, and challenging..."

Mom's are trying teach their sons to be politically
correct nice guys... and imagining an ideal young
woman who will see that wonderful, sweet, kind boy
of theirs that they taught to act like a girly-man
and think he's just perfect...

They're trying to create the NICE GUY that they WISH
that THEY were attracted to.

Read that again.

They can't admit that they want the challenging, cocky,
MASCULINE guy that they read about in romance novels...

So they need something a little more "acceptable" to
turn their boy into.

The reality is that women aren't going to teach you
how to become a man that women feel an INSTANT GUT
LEVEL ATTRACTION for...

Because they CAN'T.

They don't understand it themselves.

And besides, women aren't interested in the guys that
they have to TEACH.

They want guys that TRIGGER those feelings of ATTRACTION...
not guys who need to LEARN HOW.

Thanks for your email.

Get ready to hear your buddy cry a lot more in the
future. I know, it sucks. But being a friend is not
always fun and easy.



***COMMENT FROM A WOMAN***

Dear Dave,

Reading your columns and, however hard to admit,
perfect advice is a guilty pleasure. A friend of
mine completely changed his whole way with girls
after seeing the DVD series. My best friends (one
a model and the other a beautiful business woman)
used to say he was cute but kind of pathetic. Now
they both commonly use the word "sexy" when describing
him...this whole change in 6 months. I signed up for
your column to get a "one up" on the David D. moves.
Turns out, I'm still the biggest victim of cocky and
funny ever. 100% factual case in point (and men READ
THIS!!! And for gods sake get the Audio Book because
I'd hate to think you will make the same mistake)
from two of the five dates I went on last week.

Guy #1: Harvard MBA, millionaire, smart, good-
looking, plays polo, golf, tennis, country club,
biggest Mercedes, four houses in different cities
and countries. No competing with this guy right?
WRONG! Right off the bat, Mr. "In the Bag" says
how crazy he is about me, that I look like I could
be a model or a TV news caster (I expected this).
Offers to pay my December rent. Recounts his current
court battles with his ex-wife over money and how
he still sends money to his coke snorting ex-girlfriend.
Offers to take me to Buenos Aires THIS WEEK to look
for a house and I could pick out the curtains. Made
sure to let me know all about his VIP job. NOTHING
was left to mystery and I felt like I'd just been
given a sales pitch. At the end of the date, as we
were waiting for the Valet to pull up his Mercedes,
he kind of grabbed me and awkwardly kissed me in the
glaring street light as I moved my head. He called
me the next morning (8am) to say he was so sorry because
he knows the kiss went poorly and he really liked
me and wants to know if I think he is too big of
loser to go out with again and could we get together
that night? Answer? YES you are a loser (I didn't
think you were a loser, but you changed that in one
night). And NO (as much as I want to keep loving
you because of your amazing resume, I'd throw up if
you ever kissed me again) we will not go out again.

Guy #2: Brings in about 40,000 bones a year as
a graphics designer. Offers nothing to me by way
of financial stability. One inch shorter than my
5'10. The DEFINITION of confidence: cocky and
funny, while not being an asshole. Pulls up to
get me in his old pick-up and says next time it
will be on his mountain bike. Says, "I'm thinking
I'll take you to KFC, do you expect something
more?" We go to dinner for cheap Japanese Food.
He refrains from the usual round of predictable
compliments and manages to say a couple of things
that completely take me by surprise. We split the
tab (I think I even offered to pay the whole
thing!). He takes me to the couch he's crashing
on at his brothers while in town. We make love
throughout the night and through out the next day.
I don't say anything about commitment to this guy,
even though I count down the minutes to each of
his calls, and am dying to see him again. He
keeps calling but has been mysteriously
unavailable to see me in person for 3 weeks! I'm
seeing him this weekend (driving 2 hours to HIS
house in Santa Barbara!) and am going crazy to
know what will happen. I happen to know he is
still seeing other girls (he even told me last
week on the phone he kissed one and she was dying
to sleep with him but he wouldn't have sex with
her), but somehow I'm still putting myself in the
mix.

MEN! Don't be guy #1. It's a waste of your
time to get the MBA and the nice Mercedes if you
f*** up the fundamentals. You probably are
already guy #2. You just need to act like him and
you might have a chance of getting an intelligent,
sassy, and beautiful woman like me.

E.

Los Angeles


>>>MY COMMENTS:

In the future, all attractive women with attractive
friends that live in Los Angeles who write to me
MUST include:

1) A clear picture of themselves.

2) A clear picture of all attractive and available
friends (especially models).

3) A list of favorite restaurants that they would
like to take me to along with said friends who's
pictures are included in said email.

Got it?

Great email. You have done the male gender a great
service by being honest about your "guilty
pleasure" of reading these emails... and by telling
the plain truth about why women aren't attracted
to jackasses who try too hard and seek approval.

Well done.

Now send pictures.



***QUESTION***

David,

First off I would like to say that after reading
your book, it not only helped me reflect on past interactions
with women, but it also helped me reflect on myself
as a person. After reading Double Your Dating, it
completely blew my mind when I FINALLY realized the
things I had done completely wrong in the past with
women. So with that, I'd like to share a fairly recent
experience I had with a local lifeguard hottie.

I had noticed her as soon as I entered the pool.
She was very athletic with tight abs and long dark
legs that went on for days. Shoulder length brown
hair, brown eyes... Very nice. But anyway, let's
get back to my story. I'm a shorter guy... 20 years
old. About 5'5", with short red hair, freckles, and
an average body. I didn't approach her initially,
because I wanted to swim and brainstorm what I wanted
to say and how I wanted to approach. Later on, as
I am getting my stuff ready to leave the pool... I
notice that a couple of 11 or 12 year old BOYS are
flirting with her. After they hang around her
ladder for about 3 minutes she seems to get annoyed
by them. Bam, just like that a light bulb flashes above
my head.

So I wait until those kids leave until I make my
approach... Then I slowly walk over to her in a cocky
way with a smirk on my face and say, "You should be
ashamed of yourself." Then I paused for dramatic
effect so she could wonder what the hell I was talking
about. She just kind of smiled in a way that said
"What did I do?" Then I say, "...Hitting on those 12
year old boys like that. What's wrong with you anyway?"
And then her face lighted up and she said something
sarcastic to the effect of "Yeah I know, I can't help
it." After that I thought I would test a technique
that was mentioned in a previous newsletter. So then
I asked her if I could ask a quick question. It was
then when I asked her "Are you single?" in a way similar
to asking what time it is with a straight and serious
face. Of course her face lighted up again, and she
was clearly flattered by the question... BUT she wasn't
single. Damn. lol. She then went into a spill about
how she had a boyfriend for 3 years, and she told me
where she was from, etc. Looking back on the whole
thing, I think I should've followed through a little
better and still got her e-mail anyway and offer friendship,
but after I found out she wasn't single I kind of lost
interest. Even though she wasn't single, overall I
still think it was a success for me. Because she still
reacted in a positive way, and left me with a feeling
that if she was single, I KNOW I would have been able
to get her e-mail and number.

Now to the question... I have only read the book
once... And I THINK I get it. BUT, I think I should
read it again once or twice. So that I KNOW I get it.
Even though your techniques are making sense and hit
close to home for me... I can't seem to find the motivation
to go out and meet women. I don't know what it is,
but it's almost like I would rather spend my nights
at home instead of getting out of the house to meet
women. I think it may be a confidence issue, and I
should just read the book again a couple times.

Nice work David. The newsletter is GREAT. Keep
it up man.

J.B.
Missouri

p.s. To all the short guys out there like me. Keep
your head up. If you're 5'5"... Walk like you're 6'5".
It makes a huge difference. And remember, YOU'VE
GOT TA STRUT!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, baby.

Maybe you should do a video program called:

"HOW TO STRUT - A COURSE FOR SHORT GUYS"

Might be a big hit... who knows.

And about rereading my book...

DUH.

That book is a REFERENCE TOOL. It's something that
you should read DAILY until you master the techniques
described.

You're CRAZY if you read it once, and then put it
aside.

It's a huge mistake to not review great ideas on a
regular basis.

Good job, and read the book again!



***SUCCESS STORY***

Hey Dave,

Your stuff is pure gold as if you didn't already
know. I used to have a hard time with women and now
since I got your book it's like I don't even have
to try nearly as hard and I'm getting ten time the
digits (phone #)

Anyway, I just wanted to share with you this story.
I was at the grocery store doing my food shopping.
Well, as I'm going down the frozen food section I
notice this totally hot girl about mid to late 20's
looking at frozen dinners. I walked up to her like
I was just shopping and notice she's looking at frozen
meals, the type you throw in the microwave. So I ask
her if that was for her dog and she didn't even look
up at me and said it was for her boyfriend for when
she goes away this weekend. So I told her that if I
was her boyfriend and she left that crap for me that
she'd come back to find all her stuff on the front
porch with the door locks changed. So she finally looks
up with this look of disbelieve as if to say "oh no
you just didn't" So I just laugh at her and ask her
if she knows how to cook. She says a little but not
really and I tell her that's to bad because the way
to a guys heart is through his stomach. She's laughs
again and tells me she can make spaghetti. Then I tell
her any moron can boil water and throw in some noodles
and laugh at her again. The whole time she had this
look as if she's never been talked to like this, along
with a big smile. So I TOLD her to give me her email
address and I'll send her some recipes so that her
poor boyfriend doesn't starve to death. She laughs
and says that he's on his way out anyway and gives
me her email and phone number (which I didn't tell
her to give me) and says that she'd like some good
recipes anyway. So I wait 5 days and send her an email
and tell her if she screws up my mother's recipe that
I'll have to kick her ass. She write back within the
hour and asked if I wanted to meet her for a drink. I
said that I couldn't today but maybe next week I'd be
available. Immediately she writes back and says that
she broke up with her boyfriend and wanted to get to
know me. So I write back the next day and say "good
for him, maybe now he'll get a decent meal" That went
over perfect because she wrote me back and asked me
again to met for drinks, I replied that since she's
not playing hard to get that I will and tell her I'll
only met her for drinks if she buys. She says she'll
meet me the next day at 7:00 at the local bar. I arrived
at around 7:15 and walk right up to the bar, I saw her
in the corner but didn't make eye contact. So I order
a beer and then I hear her over my shoulder "I'll get
that beer for him" The rest is history! Thanks again
Dave, two months ago I would have just checked out her
ass and kept walking, now I'm hitting that ass! All
you guys out there GET THE DAMN BOOK ALREADY!!!!!

- K.L.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

You know, you're kind of funny in a beer commercial
kind of way...

Classy.

"... two months ago I would have checked out her ass
and kept walking, but now I'm hitting that ass..."

It's special.

You ever think of becoming a greeting card writer
or something?

You sound like you'd be good at writing things that
make women feel happy and special in their hearts.

OK, OK... I have to admit that your letter was pretty
entertaining.

You're obviously have a good, strong understanding
of how to dial up the Sexual Tension... very nice.

Call Hallmark. Maybe they're looking for writers...



***QUESTION***

Hello, I am a very smart person (iq of about 160),
and i often feel like most women are not up to my
level of intellect; their gregariousness simply amuses
me. They always seem to move away from me, i dont
understand why. I am always the first guy to give
them compliments, and tell them "i love you." What
am i doing wrong? Your c+f technique is horrible,
although I have used it on my mom and dad and they
are suddenly attracted to me. Is this normal?

F.Z


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, you sound pretty smart.

Maybe you should go take the I.Q. test again.

Sounds like you might have gotten a person who put
a 1 in front of your score on accident, man.

Get it checked again.



***QUESTION***

Davo,

[I] Was just reading the latest email, & felt like
sharing my two cents (and experiences) with ya. I'll
start off by saying that the comment you made (in
the Advanced Series) to sort of personalize your cocky-funny
attitude is spot on. When I first got the book/cds,
I thought laying on as much cocky/funny as possible
was the way to go. I still think it is in cases, but
in the cd, you mention that good looking guys should
tone down the cocky a bit. This is sooo true. I do a
bit of modeling, but I never had any real confidence.
I find what works best for me is to just project my
self-confidence, make sure I stand out from the wussies,
and keep as much humor as possible with just a bit of
cocky here and there. Works like a charm.

Oh and one cool thing I like to do, is to have fun
with the c/f, and then to TELL the girl how NICE a
guy I am. They sooo get it, & its like you say- the
difference between the words you use and what youre
SAYING. The funny thing is, the ladies actually do
think of you as a great guy when you have fun with
them and tease them. And they will still think of
you as nice AND be attracted to you, because you are
actually giving them what they want. They appreciate
you "bantering" with them, they love it! Better being
seen as nice than a nice guy I say.

Sorry to take a third para, but I've got one quick
story that worked a charm. I'm a pilot, and where
I work there is a overwhelming majority of guys &
one girl who gets most of the attention 'cos there
isn't really anyone else. When I started there, these
guys were being classic wusses and doing most of her
work for her etc. kissing her butt, the whole deal.
Anyway, I called her on it, gave her sh** for it,
and the best bit of all- I told all the other guys
to stop doing that stuff for her, with her right there.
This showed her that I new exactly what was really
going on. Anyway that was a few months ago, we've spent
"a bit of time together" ;) & I had forgotten all about
it and assumed she had too. Well, a few days ago she
brought it up & said "how much of a jerk" I was to do
that. Shows that its still working in my opinion.

Cheers
- C.B., Australia


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Verrrrry nice.

Now you're getting it.

The fact that you had the nerve to tells guys to stop
being such Wussies to a girl... with her standing
right there... IS FANTASTIC.

And teasing a girl until she's flustered, then turning
it around and telling her what a nice guy you are...
another brilliant move.

Always send mixed messages... because it's damn fun,
and women love it.



***COMMENT***

Yo David D,

Ok I have written you before and have never seen
my emails in your mailbag, and I just want to say
...THANK YOU FOR NOT RESPONDING!!! I was asking all
the stupid questions like "how do I make her see I
am the one?" And saying stupid crap like " she is
the only one for me." WHAT A WUSS I WAS BEING! I
took the advice you told one guy to do, I wrote YSSUW
on a piece of paper and looked in the mirror with it.
Since then I have taken your advice and said NEXT.
I want to keep this short but let me tell you I have
had no lonely times since. So in short, you are the
man I am going to purchase the advanced series this
week. You saved me from a life of approval seeking
WUSSDOM. Thanks a bunch.

S.E.R.

NC


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea, well that'll learn ya' about sending me jackass
emails!

Congratulations on actually making the WUSSY sign
and looking at yourself with it.

I know it sounds strange, but things like that make
an impression on your mind... and help.

I think you're going to be OK.

Now send in a killer success story, and share the
details!



***SUCCESS STORY***

Hi David,

This story is especially for the guys (like me)
who have a hard time making the mental transition
to go out and just start talking to girls you don't
know and trying the material from the Ebook and advanced
series. I found that I intellectually understood your
material and agreed with it but that when it came
time to try and really put it into practice that I
was still too nervous and probably fearful of rejection
to relax and use the material properly. My discovery
came accidentally one day when I was returning from
a transcontinental trip. I was so tired from the long
journey (at least 24 hours straight in taxis, buses,
airports and flying) that I found myself in kind of
a strange mental state where I just didn't give a sh**
what anyone thought of me per se. Not in a rude or
aggressive way but just no real fear of censure or
anything. It was amazing that even as I walked through
airport and to a couple of stores doing some grocery
shopping on way home with this attitude girls were
smiling at me and making more direct eye contact than
I ever usually get. Just from the different way I must
have walked and carried myself with this I don't give
a sh** attitude! Amazing. While checking out at a
grocery store I found myself teasing cashier, a beautiful
young woman, before I even realized what I was doing
and I just didn't care. Can't remember exactly how
the exchange went but was something like this:

[as she was checking my things she hesitated for
a second on a bottle of wine looking for price or
something]

Me: Hey hey easy on the merchandise. If you want
one go and get one yourself

Her: [looking at me kind of confused but with hint
of smile already] no uh I was just looking for the
price?

Me: Yeah sure. and don't try to talk me into inviting
you over to share it either

(She smiles bigger this time. Eyes change way they
are looking at me kind of focus down and tighten like
she is hunting or something - seriously it was kind
of freaky - and she kind of starts mumbling some lame
thing about she was really just looking for price -
I Interrupt her in middle of this with a patronizing
tone this time)

Me: at least if you're going to hit on me have
the guts to admit it. {then kind of leaning in and
whispering) and you might want to work on your technique
a bit. It's kind of cheezy after that I had her write
email on back of receipt. When I woke up next day
and thought back over it it really seemed like that
was someone else inhabiting my body or it had just
been a dream except that i had the receipt and email.
So I was amazed but thought of it as a one time fluke.
However after a few weeks I had to stay up really
late on a project and was just dead tired the next
day at work. Again I noticed that I just didn't care
and was very relaxed and again had no problem utilizing
the material on new or already known women. I'm not
really sure why it works or that it would work for
anyone else but its helped me get started on making
this mental switch. Thanks for all the great Material
Dave and sorry this is so freaking long.

- D from Seattle

p.s. really hope you can print this one as I think
other more timid readers might be able to relate and
get something from this


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Wow, nice!

I think that maybe what I should advise guys to so
is stay up for 24 hours straight, then go out to meet
women...

You know, wait until you're in some bizarre, faded
state of mind... then go out and talk to girls.

Sounds tight.

I'll tell you, though...

Your stories are great.

The idea of accusing a female checker of "putting
her hands on your merchandise" is fantastic.

And then implying that she's trying to pick up on
YOU... and that she's hinting that she wants you to
invite her to share... VERY good.

And I also like the idea of having her write her email
on the back of a receipt. Very nice.

You're learning, young Jedi.

Keep it up.



***QUESTION***

Hey Dave,

Your stuff is amazing. I've been using your techniques
for about half a year now and I'm seeing how much
of an idiot I used to be OBSESSING over the same girls
over and over, always being the nice guy. I would
constantly be extremely nice *cough* be a wussy *cough*
to the point where I thought my new cologne had a
secret girl repellent or something. Now that I've
adopted your ways I feel completely refreshed and
confident, like a brand new man. I can now get girls
that I thought were way out of my league as easy as
pie. I have a couple questions though. My best friend,
who has pretty low confidence because he has never
had a serious girlfriend before, (the only one he
had was using him to get to me), sees me "perform"
my new abilities with ease, yet he is still too stubborn
to try this out. He says he's happy being the person
(wussy) he is, and that women will just have to accept
him for who he is. I tried explaining this philosophy
to him many times, and we usually end up getting into
a fight about it. I can't even convince him to sign up
for this newsletter because he is afraid of being "fake".
I need some advice to help him, thanks.

OK, onto my next question. This is the only real
problem I have when dealing with women. From time
to time, they tell me they are fat and ugly and worthless.
I'm not sure whether to agree to bust on them, or
to console them. I know busting on them would follow
the guidelines of the C+F attitude, but I think if
I AM too harsh it would be more detrimental than good.
On the other hand, if I do console them by saying
at least "No, you aren't," that makes me look like
a wussy, and just a feel-good go to compliment guy.
I think this is a situation that a lot of guys have
to deal with, because a bunch of America's women do
have low-self esteem and look to guys to uplift their
mood. Seriously though, Dave, I'd still be wondering
how to impress the next girl I obsess with if it weren't
for me finding your website. Thanks.

P.D.

Methuen, MA


>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, advice to help your friend:

Get him a subscription to Playboy. He's going to be
dating his right hand for a LOOOONG time.

Advice on your second question:

If a woman says "I'm fat and ugly"... RUN.

Just stand up, and RUN AWAY.

If she IS fat and ugly, then you probably aren't going
to want a date with her...

And if she ISN'T fat and ugly, but she THINKS that
she is... then you've got a bigger problem than you
think.

The last thing you need in your life is a woman with
a screwed up self image and emotional problems.

If you MUST pursue a woman who says "I'm fat and ugly",
just reply "Your words, not mine" and get on to the
next topic.

And do yourself a big favor... find women who aren't
messed up in the head. It's much more fun in the long
run.



***QUESTION***

Dave,

I really appreciate the mental process of taking
a complex concept or problem and boiling it down to
something simple other people can wrap their brains
around and you are the master, my friend. Reading
your ebook and newsletter I've about bruised my forehead
slapping it when saying to myself: "DUH!" At my age
(53) and going for women close to my age, it doesn't
all apply as much as it does for your normal target
audience but enough does that it's changed my love
life!

I've always been super-shy when it comes to initially
meeting women (although I grew out of the wussy stage
years ago - life's too short for that) and I don't do
bars so I decided to use the Internet services. I wasn't
having much luck but I got your ebook and thought I'd
try the C+F there, with nothing to lose, kind of using
it as a practice field. Cut to the chase: I wrote to
a cute lady in New Jersey (I'm on the West Coast so I
had nothing to lose) and said "I've got two questions
for you: Why are you in New Jersey and when's the next
flight from Newark to Seattle?" She came back with a
schedule of flights going the other direction! She was
jumping right in the game. We've had fun teasing back
and forth for a while but to make a long story short,
she booked a flight out here for next month. No way was
I going to wuss out and buy a ticket to New Jersey first,
I waited for her to make that move first. Then I booked
my flight east.

Now here's one your readers might get a kick out
of and maybe even use. When I still thought nothing
was really going to come of this and got bored with
the chitter chatter I figured what the hell and stepped
it up to the next level. Out of the blue I told her
I thought she has a nice looking neck and I'd like
to take my tongue and trace a line from her shoulder
to her ear and nibble on it. Magic! I've used this
one on a few other women and I find it works wonders;
one told me she could feel the chills when she read
it. Now, if I hadn't stuck with the C+F all along,
what would she have felt? "Dirty old man! You're outa
here!" We're never too old to learn.

- O.J.

Kirkland, WA


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Hey, great job, man.

Now, before you get too excited about this girl from
NJ that you met online...

Here are a few tips for you:

1) Get at LEAST 10 pictures of this woman... and make
sure that they were ALL taken within the last 30 days.

2) Make sure it's HER in the pictures she sends over
to you.

3) If you can, GET VIDEO. It's worth it to have her
get a cheap USB webcam so you can see what you're dealing
with.

4) Make sure her return flight is FLEXIBLE, and that
there are flights back to NY SOON after she arrives.

Why?

Because I've seen and even experienced many things
that would make you want to run and hide if you saw
them...

You might be the type of guy who isn't as concerned
about how a woman looks.

That's fine.

But I'm trying to make sure that you're getting what
you're EXPECTING.

I'll tell you, having someone fly across the country
is serious... if she shows up and happens to look
NOTHING like her one single glamour shot taken ten
years ago when she was 47 pounds lighter and before
she started wearing wigs... you're going to have a
BIG surprise.

Take it from me... really.

Get the details... and make sure there are flights
that are OPEN to NJ...


***QUESTION***

Hi Dave...

Just a note to say "thanks" for your daily e-mails.
They keep my attitude sharp! The kind of attitude
you describe works not only with women, but with others,
including my boss.

Now a word in reply to the guy who wrote about capturing
the attention of the hottest stripper in town. I'm
old (61), short and fat, but after raising my kids
and getting divorced, I've had the time of my life!
I had a friend who supplied local models and strippers
with stage costumes and shoes, and when she invited
me to be her assistant, I took her up on it. Wow!
I'm naturally cocky and funny, and these girls never
saw me as a "pursuer" so guess what? I've had an endless
string of beauties (these girls "refer" guys they
like to each other). I currently get phone calls from
about 4 a day, which is all I can handle. The point
of this is that, while they're fun (and ego-boosting),
they're not "settling down" material. During the time
I've had all the 10s any guy could handle, a couple
of really nice women appeared on the scene, and guess
what? I totally wussified! Somehow, I didn't realize
the things that worked with "hot" women would work
with any woman. Until I read your stuff, I couldn't
figure out why I was so successful with women guys
drool over and so unsuccessful with "real" women.
Now I know. I even know why my ex left. Over the years,
I became a TOTAL wussy with her without even realizing
it! It just happened so gradually...even though she said
over and over and over she hated "WIMPS!" Thanks, Dave,
for turning on the light for me! I'm one of those really
bright guys you talk about who never realized what was
working and what wasn't until you hit me over the head
with it...Never too late to learn, I hope...

BH, San Jose, CA


>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, let me get this straight...

You became the ASSISTANT to a woman who supplied costumes
to strippers... and that's how you met all these girls
and had four of them a day calling you?

Something tells me that after this newsletter we're
going to see a lot of guys applying for that job all
over the world...

Interesting.

Well, you're right on...

"Nice" girls that are "settling down material" also
like men who are interesting, challenging, and funny.

And if you start acting like a Wuss around them, they'll
use you and lose you like an old pair of shoes.

Women don't want boring, ass-kissing, predictable guys
who are uninteresting to spend time with.

All women want a guy that they feel ATTRACTION for.
And being a Wuss isn't going to make that happen...
no matter how hard you try.

If this dating stuff I teach doesn't work out, I'll
give you a ring and get some tips on how to become
an assistant for a topless dancer costume dealer.

Nice.



***QUESTION***

Dave,

I've been reading your newsletters for awhile, and
bought your ebook a few months ago, and i gotta say,
your info is amazing. Physically, im tall at 6'6,
have a scared face from a rather bad case of acne
when i was a teen, and am otherwise a rather ordinary
22 year old college student. For the longest time
i was an incredible wuss as you put it, and i never
knew what was going wrong with my relationships - i
would give up all my power, be utterly indecisive and
easily intimidated by the slightest since of disapproval
from any woman. After i read your book, i thought
what you said couldnt possibly work, but i decided
what could it hurt to try it? so i just went down
to a local cafe and tried out some of your ideas
and after a week or so of tuning, i managed to get
more phone numbers and emails than i had in the last
4, 5 years. casual dating, one night stands, stuff
like that arnt really my things, but there was one
girl that id had a thing for for a long time, and
one day while hanging out with my friends after a
movie at the local mall, i saw her walking around with
a group of her friends. normally, i wouldnt have done
anything, but this time i just said to heck with it
and went up and talked to her. normally she wouldnt
think twice bout me because of my overwhelming wussiness
(which i never understood before), but this time i
just tried the c&f act on her, busting on her and her
friends, making comments bout all the fashions on display
in the store windows, then just leaving back to my
friends instead of getting clingy when she started
showing interest. my friends thought i was insane, but
shortly after, her and her friends came up to me and
started following us around trying to keep my attention.
it just enthralled me at how easily this change came
about. at the end of the evening she asked to exchange
numbers. instead of calling her, i waited and she
ended up calling me and asking me to go back to the
mall with her for coffee at the bookstore. while
there, we walked around the mall again and she took
me into a clothing store, where i did nothing but make
fun of all the styles and her for being into all of
this kinda stuff. as we were wandering through the
store, we ended up heading through the lingerie section,
and instead of getting intimidated like i normally would
i made a bunch of c&f comments about how artificial
and insecure she must be to feel like she needed all
this stuff. and as we were walking out, we ran into
one of my friends who asked us what we were doing,
to which i said 'this pervert just took me through
the lingerie section! i mean, i barely know her!' this
clenched it, and afterwords she was all over me. Since
then i havent let off, and we've been in a steady relationship
now for alil over a month now, and its easily the best
one iv ever been in. I do have a question though, because
of this shes become really attached, and im not complaining
at all. But in doing so, shes done a lot of things
like meet me at 5am at an airport to see me off for the
recent thanksgiving vacation, and various other things.
Shes asked me to do a few of these things to, which i
did reluctantly because i felt bad for not returning
that kind of action.. normally i wouldnt do this (for
me, 5am doesnt exist unless absolutely necessary), but
im not sure what to do. im not sure how to deal with
things like this, this early in a relationship. i know
relationships arnt really your area, but thanks for any
help on this,and thanks overall for all the information,
your a lifesaver man

S.D.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

I just want you to know... all over the world, guys
are standing and cheering for you!

Nice... I really enjoyed your story.

I know what it's like to not have any idea how to
even start a conversation with a girl... never mind
get a girl's number when you first meet her...

And I know how good it feels to learn how to get over
your insecurities and then go out and make something
happen that you've always wanted.

Here's what you need to do now...

The more you be who YOU want to be, the more she'll
stay attracted to you.

You're bordering on the "relationship" questions
here, which I don't really like to get into...

And the reality is that if you give up your own life,
or put yourself aside for a woman, she will probably
begin to lose respect for you.

You can be NICE without being a WUSSY... and you are
going to have to learn how to walk that line if you
want to have a good relationship.

Keep learning this stuff... it will actually help
you even more now... and good job.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Man, this stuff is revolutionary to my heretofore
limited mind. I am a fairly classic bad boy, you
know, lawyer with a Harley, but I have always felt
all thumbs with women. I was fairly successful, mostly
by dumb luck, but your materials have totally changed
how I think about women and I am only through disc
six from your series and the results have been immediate
and dramatic. The genetic information is priceless,
the whole notion of appealing to her on a genetic
level is so liberating and rings so true that I don't
know quite what to say, other than, stunning.

I looked back over the women I had been successful
attracting and noticed that all of them had been attracted
to me in periods of my life where I was operating
generally with high confidence. You have given me
the tools to operate with high confidence EVERY day.
You discuss your scarcity theory at length and a
similar thought from negotiation training is "operating
from a position of strength". That is mostly the
secret, right there.

I always tried to use the nice guy schtick. That
lame ass play NEVER works. I wasted years with it.
I am free of that chump forever. You talk about looking
at life from an attractive chick's perspective. I
have some images that really have helped me. Take
it further back, and imagine her on the playground
in the first grade. Little boys with devil's horns
have constantly picked at her and she has thought
it to be GREAT FUN ever since. That is the part of
her to attract. While she has grown up, she has created
this "prince charming" in her mind that she is looking
for. And if you enter her life banging the 'nice guy'
drum she will naturally shuffle you toward that "prince
charming" ideal she has in her fanciful, romantic brain.
He is perfect and I will NEVER EVER match her expectations
for that guy. But, the little horned devils, they
get to play. And if you are enough fun, she just might
try to mold you into "prince charming". Now, there is
a task that she wants to do.

I have thought of my dealings with women in some
fishing terms and metaphors that are useful. I have
talked to my friends before about "nervous water".
Fishing in shallow water flats, you are looking for
fish in two to three feet of water. I mean to see
them visibly. Sometimes, you can't see them, but
the water on top of them is moving, shaking, vibrating
and you just know there are fish under there. Hence,
nervous water. Dealing with women, I like nervous
water. You know, that period of time when you are
kind of posturing and she is on your radar screen.
I looked back at the women with which I had been successful
over the years and realized there had always been
nervous water in the beginnings with them. You teach
how to create nervous water beautifully.

Further with the fishing imagery....My classic nice
guy schtick has me usually with several women merely
kind of on the line, maybe biting, maybe not. I would
tell friends "I can't get her close enough to the boat."
And in my mind it involved some tiresome cranking,
winding in and reeling her toward the boat. It had
never occurred to me that maybe I could get her to
swim toward the boat. You teach how to do that. This
stuff is totally amazing.

Yesterday, I had three project women on my radar
screen, I tried some different things I learned from
you and have all three of them swimming toward the
boat. In fact, I had a women in my arms on her couch
with her clothes half-off last night, when I told her
I had to go. That has brought a mad run to the boat
this morning.

Just some of the good news from the trenches, this
stuff is a WHOLE LOT OF FUN. While some of this stuff
is superficially counter-intuitive, it feels right
at a core, genetic level.

Thanks for the fishing tips and Happy Fishing.

~ KH

Since I wrote that note above a few days ago, I cannot
believe the totally fascinating encounters I have been
having with women pretty much non stop. Within minutes
we are talking about sex. A beautiful yoga instructor
who lives in my neighborhood was just over to watch a
movie-Don Juan DeMarco. What a hoot! After the movie
we talked about her love of threesomes and her small
minded boyfriends. Come to f----- papa!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yea yea yea... OK, no guys like you, and your friends
don't want to talk to you.

I get it.

lol...

By the way, it's interesting that you mentioned learning
from my program how to make women feel ATTRACTION
for you on a GENETIC level...

As you know from listening to my Advanced Series,
I really believe that most women have an "Attraction
Mechanism" that is only triggered if you either AUTOMATICALLY
trigger it because you ACCIDENTALLY do the "right"
things... or you AUTOMATICALLY trigger it because
you KNOW the right things to do.

And the guys who "accidentally" trigger that magical
feeling of ATTRACTION in women are very few and far
between...

Oh, and if you're reading this right now, the chances
are that YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THEM.

If you are, congrats.

But if you're a regular guy like me who doesn't have
women walk up to him and say "Hi, you're cute", then
you need to LEARN HOW to trigger this GENETIC LEVEL
ATTRACTION.

You have to get a clear understanding of the things
that women unconsciously respond to... and then incorporate
them into your behavior and communication.

In other words, you're not going to figure this one
out with TRIAL AND ERROR.

And you're not going to figure it out by doing more
of the same thing you've been doing for the last several
YEARS of your life...

I'll tell you something that I find VERY interesting.

After spending several years watching guys who are
"naturals" with women, paying careful attention to
what they do differently from other guys who have
little or no success... and then adding research of
how and why women respond the way they do to everything
from body language to eye contact to their own genetic
programming... I've realized that there are several
"Master Keys" that a guy needs to understand and "get"
before he can have consistent success with women.

I've read that something like 95% of the population
in America that reach the age of 65 years old are
either DEAD or DEAD BROKE... this means that only 1
in about 20 people are financially independent by
the time they reach retirement age.

When I read that I thought to myself "You know, I'll
bet that all the people that reach age 65 and are
broke THOUGHT that they'd make it big, and that they
didn't need to worry about saving money during their
lives...".

I know so many people that just don't pay attention
to the important things... and they wind up getting
into all kinds of trouble as a result.

What does this have to do with you?

Well, maybe nothing, and maybe everything.

I think that most guys who aren't successful with
women are thinking one of two things:

1) I'll never be successful, so I might as well just
accept it, and learn to deal with it.

2) I need to make a lot of money, buy a nice car,
and take women to fancy dinners and offer them a great
lifestyle in order to make women like me.

Of course, these are mental lies that actually HURT
us.

These are the kinds of thoughts that keep us from
DOING SOMETHING about our situations... and that lead
to us winding up either ALONE or IN HORRIBLE RELATIONSHIPS.

In either case, the feeling of desperation just sucks...
and it doesn't have to be this way!

So what's the answer?

Well, I think the answer is to put yourself out there,
and LEARN how to attract women.

Instead of leaving it to chance, and winding up like
all the other MAJORITY of men who have horrible success
with women... you have to get up off your ass and make
it happen.

I did. And it took me a damn long time.

I tried more stupid stuff and made more mistakes than
anyone I know...

hotcool007
17th February 2008, 04:16
you are right buddy