garnet4david2001
6th August 2006, 03:38
More Techniques For Attracting Women
***QUESTION***
Hey -
I am 18 years old and just graduated high school.
I used to be a MAJOR wuss and when I was younger I
was always a shy kid who was picked on a lot because
I was a short, skinny kid that never stood up for
myself. And worst of all, I never took advantage
of high school to get girls! I started getting your
newsletter earlier this year and the cocky + funny
attitude changed my life in more ways than one. I
hang out with guys that get the hottest high school
girls you can ever imagine. Not only do they get 9's
and 10's, I see these girls obsess over them. I was
around them so much that I tried to model thier behavior
around girls and I noticed that EVERYTHING you preach
about, comes to them NATURALLY. Every tip of advice
you've given to guys ACTUALLY works, and Ive seen
it first hand.
I started using cocky + funny myself and even use
lines that Ive seen my friends use in past cases.
I saw a HOT girl in the mall and she was checking
herself out in a pocket mirror so I said "don't worry,
your hair doesn't look THATTT bad". She started laughing
even though I just made fun of her! I asked for her
email and when she said she doenst have the internet,
I used your line "well do you have electricity"?
AGAIN the girl laughed, and I ended up getting her
phone # and I hooked up with her that weekend!
MY QUESTION - my natural personality has transformed
from a wussy shy nice kid to a guy that's gonna bust
your balls, but a nice guy at heart. I made a lot
more girl "friends" too, but whenever they try to
tell me their sad stories, I let them know Im not
their boyfriend and do not care. Whenever I gain the
courage to use cocky+funny, it WORKS but my problem
is even though I've seen this work in action, I fear
I don't know enough cocky+funny lines to keep up a
conversation with a girl. Also, do you recommend
hitting on random strangers you see, because my friends
say they never really hit on strangers unless they
have a reason to go up and talk to them. My friends
also say to ALWAYS have 5 "project girls" and never
focus on one girl. Is this true? please write back.
E from NYC
>>>MY COMMENTS:
It's interesting, because I actually discovered the
Cocky and Funny technique by watching guys who were
good with women. In fact, a guy who is now a good
friend was trying to explain the concept to me a few
years back... and he was the first one to say "Cocky
and Funny". Of course, I had no idea what he was talking
about at the time. It really made no sense to me.
But after I started working with it and watching other
guys who were really successful with women, I learned
how it worked.
It sounds like you're really getting it - congrats!
As for your questions...
Don't worry about being able to "come up with enough
lines to keep up a conversation". Just do what you
can, and enjoy yourself. A few Cocky and Funny lines
used here and there are MUCH better than nothing at
all.
If you feel like approaching strangers, great. If
you just realize that most women are going to be nice,
but some will be either unavailable or unfriendly
then you'll be fine. I have personally had great
success meeting "strangers", and as my good friend
Rick says: Every friend you have started out as a
stranger...
And as for the "5 project girls", you're cracking me
up over here. If you like the idea of staying single
and dating a lot of different women, then this is the
way to do it! Just make sure they don't turn into
your personal "psychological projects".
Thanks for your email.
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave....
I'm a premed student who has been subscribing to your
newsletter for quite a while now. I've been meaning
to buy your book but im not in the habit of using a
credit card so ill have to open an account especially
for this. Anyway, i've been going out with this girl
for 9 months now. She is smart, attractive, and funny.
the way i landed her was by being cocky funny. EXTREMELY
cocky funny. i was always one step ahead of her. It
was kind of like "Dont even TRY to challenge me, im
already inside your head!". everything was cool.
but to tell the truth (and no offense) i just kind
of got tired of the constant effort.....so i cooled
it off a bit not always seizing the opportunity to
remind her just who it is she's dealing with. And i
think i got screwed. Now i feel like i've turned into
a wuss....and i HATE IT!!! no.. I LOATHE IT !!!!!!!!!!
When i turn on the macho act she's a pussy cat again.
You see i want someone to whom i can genuinely be....
just nice to, with her appreciating it and NOT taking
advantage. i mean since this is a long-term relationship
i want someone who will give me a smooth ride without all
that continuos maintenance. I dont wanna be cocky
and tough all my life with her, sometimes a guy just
wants to relax. Is it possible??
F.Z, Lebanon
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ooooooo, good question.
I've seen a trend in the way guys who are learning to
be Cocky and Funny and to stay in control change.
As they're learning the techniques, they become more
and more attractive to women. Then, they meet a really
amazing woman - a woman that was previously "out of
their league", and they decide to start a relationship.
As soon as they start getting closer, the guy begins
to put aside the things that worked, and start being
more and more submissive... which, of course, drives
this new woman away.
Then I get an email saying "I want to be nice and
sweet and a good guy but still have all the super hot
women calling me 24/7".
Here's what I say:
"BEING YOURSELF" IS A PRIVELEGE THAT YOU HAVE TO EARN,
NOT A RIGHT.
And the way that you earn it is to learn what it takes
to make women feel ATTRACTION, learn what it takes
to NOT drive women away, then make these things part
of "YOURSELF".
Are you with me here?
The problem is that "being yourself" for a lot of
guys means "being the type of guy that women don't
feel any ATTRACTION for".
If you can't make a woman feel the emotion of ATTRACTION,
then there's really nothing I can do to help you. If
you're not willing to do the work and make the changes
more or less permanent, then you're going to have a
long uphill battle.
And in your case, you have to realize that this woman
was attracted to you for a REASON, and if you stop
that REASON, then you're going to stop the ATTRACTION.
***QUESTION***
Whats goin on Dave?
I would love to say how great your stuff works, but
I haven't had much luck with it as of yet. I have
seen it put to good use though. My bro does the whole
cocky/funny routine naturally and I see all its power.
Most of the time I was Mr. Nice-Guy. and, of course,
it didn't work as much as I would like. Which is why
I'm writing this e-mail.(duh)
My problem is I'm missing the key ingredient to your
'super recipe,' funny. The way I see it, cocky is
like garlic, by itself it is repulsive and disgusting.
But when used as a seasoning to another main dish (funny),
it can do wonders. I'm missing the main dish. Anyone
can be cocky, but I lack in the funny department. So
where do I start to fix this?
Thanks,
P in NJ
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Humor has a structure, and it can be learned. Some
people seem to have an easier time learning how
to be funny, but I've seen some not-too-funny people
become VERY funny with practice.
Read some books, watch Comedy Central, and practice.
Start a journal and write down funny lines you hear
so you can use them later.
Get with your Bro' and watch him. Ask him for advice
and ideas. Practice. You can learn how to be funny
and it's important that you do if you want to attract
women!
As I'm sure you know, my book has some of my very
favorite "standard" lines for different situations,
plus more on how to create specific humor for
specific situations.
For all the details, go to:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/e/eBook/
***COMMENT***
Dave,
I know that you put real stories in these letters
because I sent one in and it appeared exactly as I
had written it. I laughed till I cried over the
"fat, pimply, and hairy" story.
You are "Da man" I look forward to your wit in these
letters and I must admit I'm going to buy your book.
GJ
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, all of the email letters I print in my newsletters
are ALL real. Every single one of them. I wish I had
more time in the day, because I get hundreds of them a week...
Thanks for the compliments, and enjoy.
***QUESTION***
Ok David, first off, I would like to say thank you
for taking the years that you did to get all of this
great info., and then be generous enough to spread
the knowledge. Here is my situation. I knew this
girl back in high school, and I haven't seen her since
graduation (about 2 yrs ago). I bumped into her the
other day and WOW (she is a 9.5 easy). Well, having
not yet tried out any of your techniques, I thought
"What the hell, let's go for it." It worked. The c/f
technique was golden. Got her email AND number. Well,
we eventually went out and had a great time. A couple
of days later, I went over to see her new place, and
well, things got a little wild. (it all started with
your amazing kiss technique- thanks again) So here's
the deal. She likes me a lot, and I like her a lot,
but I have been playing back in order to keep the ugly
head of the "wussy" out of the picture. When is a good
time (or is there a good time at all) to be serious with her?
Do I bust on her all the time, b/c I don't want her
to think I am a jerk? Any help you can give is great.
Thanks again.
ME
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, I don't exactly know what you mean by "serious".
If you mean "When can I talk about how I'm sad because
my dog got run over and my inner child needs a hug",
then NEVER is the answer. Well, maybe you can have
one "serious" conversation like this on the 10th date,
and it can last no longer than 5 minutes.
Just stay away from heavy emotional issues, problems,
drama, and general WUSS topics.
If you need a friend, GET A DOG!
lol... I forgot where that line is from, but I love
it.
***QUESTION***
Mr. DeAngelo,
Well, I've got to say, after trying many, many different
methods, yours have been the first ones to work. I
cut and pasted your online personal add and sent it
out to a few women on a college-oriented site. This
is after trying (unsuccessfully) for many months to
get any sort of response from the women on the site.
Before reading the newsletters, I would've typically
sent out about 20 e-mails, and got 1 response if I
was lucky. This time, however, I sent out about 5 or
6, and got 3 replies the next day! Unbelievable! Now,
for the tricky part...getting the number and the date.
I've got some leads, and I want to keep my C&F attitude
up. I'm just normally funny, but need practice at
being cocky. (I'm either too subtle, or too extreme,
so I'm practicing at finding a middle ground.) But,
in the meantime, what kind of C&F response would you
give to a University-aged woman?
G.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Good job.
There are all kinds of great topics you could work
with.
You could make fun of the classes they're taking,
bust on them for taking easy classes, accuse them of
taking 10 years to get a 4 year degree... the list is
endless.
Since you're going to be meeting these women at some
point, make sure you go and do things with them that
have "built in conversation value". Go to interesting,
fun parts of town with unusual and interesting shops.
This kind of thing creates all kinds of opportunity
for great comments... and it keeps the energy up all
by itself.
Now that you're meeting women online, do yourself a
big favor and practice your skills CHATTING with
women.
Chatting is great because it slows the conversation
down to about 1/5 the normal speed, and gives you
time to plan out what you're saying.
***QUESTION***
Dear Dave,
I'm real sorry but I still cannot figure out how to
build bridges after getting the email address. Normally
the next day I send the lady an email, she replies
and then I can't think what on earth else to do. My
overall goal is to get with her - so can you help me man?
I.M.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, I think I can help.
1. Set up a meeting for tea.
2. Have her stop by your place on the way to tea.
3. Have fun, interesting conversation.
4. Invite her back to your place.
5. Use the Kiss Test.
6. Use your creativity and imagination.
Don't focus too much on "getting with her", just
focus on getting to THE NEXT STEP.
In other words, when you email don't say something
like:
"Hi, it was great meeting you. I'm single and nice,
and you seem like you'd make a great girlfriend for a
sweet, desperate loser like myself."
Stay off of heavy conversation. Don't talk about
relationships and marriage, etc. Just talk and enjoy
yourself. But keep progressing as you do.
As long as you relax and make each progressive step
easy and natural, you'll be fine.
Again, just take it one step at a time.
***QUESTION***
Hi David:
I'm 42 and a bald, average, confident guy. After being
recently divorced (Dec/01) after 24 yrs and thoroughly
confused about dating and what women want. I bought
[another dating book] and was even more scared to
do any of what was asked to do. I bought your course
and coupled with watching the players in clubs I knew
C&F was the answer. I used it successfully on over
(9) women since Jan/02 all resulting in them wanting
much, much more* than I was willing to give. They all
call from time-to-time for fun!
*Here is where I have the problem and it might help
others trying for this type of relationship. I am
single and love my Space and I want to have fun for a
while and eventually marry again I'm looking for Her
and it takes a while to see if she is Her I get them
hooked way too fast and not trying to do so This is
how: Women are attracted to C&F, They want fun and
excitement; I think I know why they want funny for
the fun things to do in life (too many boring guys
out there) and the cocky part piques their inner flames
to what could happen as far as passion. If when you
are passionate with them you have to be a Leader and
show them as bad a boy as they can handle. This has
in all instances so far lead them to call me and pursue
me: the next day and weeks ahead. They want a far
deeper relationship. They want C&F in their lives.
These are not clingy people (7-9's) (24-44yrs) and
profess to want to be friends first. Email is great
as it has a way of helping them say things they wished
they could say in person. Do you have any wisdom on
how to do C&F and not hit all of her senses?
Thanks Again for C&F
J.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol... you poor, poor dear. Sounds tough, really.
I think you're doing fine. You're on the right track,
and I think that you're going to find an outstanding
woman to have a longer-term relationship with.
I personally think that the problem isn't the techniques
you're using, it's that you're now seeing that YOU
CAN CHOOSE A WOMAN, rather than having HER CHOOSE YOU...
and it's making you far more SELECTIVE than you were
in the past.
When you're seeing several attractive women at the
same time, you begin to realize that you can have
whatever you want. You no longer have to settle.
This has the effect of making you a lot pickier
about what you'll tolerate... and it makes you see
negatives a lot more clearly in women.
Again, I think you're doing fine. Just stick with it
and you'll find a great woman to marry again, if
that's what you want.
***QUESTION***
Hi Dave.
I don't think the cocky/funny technique will work for
me. I'm 19 y/o, 5' 3" and 117 lb. I have an average
build, dark hair and blue eyes. I also have a fetish
for girls with big bellies. What do you think? Be
honest.
SO
Birmingham, England
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, if I can get myself to stop laughing, maybe I
can answer you!
OK, let's make sure I have the facts straight here...
You're five foot three, weigh 117, and LIKE WOMEN
WITH BIG BELLIES?
Honestly, I think you're right... I don't think that
the Cocky and Funny technique will work for you... in
fact
...I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GOING TO WORK FOR YOU.
Make sure you don't tell any of your other guy friends
about this. It might get ugly.
By the way, you may not have considered this, but
women with big bellies usually got them from eating a
lot... and my guess is that they might be expensive
dates.
Watch out.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave:
Dated someone for 4 years. Turned into a wussy boy
a couple times, and both times she left me for the
same guy. This guy was a selfish, conceited jerk,
but he was the ONLY guy she's ever dated who she couldn't
wrap around her finger. He was an impossible challenge...
and so her sexual attraction to him was enormous.
(Hmmm...is there a lesson to be learned here...?)
Since we broke up about a year ago, I've been reading
your newsletters and your ebooks. Now I'M the challenging
one. I don't flatter women with compliments, I don't
buy drinks or flowers, I split the dinner tab, I don't
always call (or call back) every day, I keep my social
life busy and interesting. And I never ever EVER lose
my composure with a woman - no matter how much I'm
attracted to them. (In truth: I caved to one woman,
told her how attracted I was to her, and instantly
found myself in the "just friends" pit of no return.
Oops. Had to learn the hard way.) Now every time a
woman tries to test my level of "wussiness" I completely
annihilate them with a cocky+funny comment...and they
LOVE me for it. And...of course...guess who suddenly
wants to date me again...
Thanks D,
M.S.
Chicago
P.S. Took this off the end of the 1st paragraph
above...it was getting too long, but I love this
perspective from a woman: While investigating this
illogical phenomenon, I asked a somewhat-attractive
female friend of mine "so...can you shed any light
onto the whole 'why women are attracted to jerks'
idea?" And her answer (quote): "Because we're
too leery of a nice guy. Nice guys creep me out.
They seem like I can walk all over them and I hate
that. Women want a bit of a challenge."
>>>MY COMMENTS:
This is truth from the mountain. Read it 100 times a
day.
Print it and tape it to your computer monitor.
Put a copy in your wallet... next to the money so you
see it often.
Put one on your car sun visor and mirror.
And go read it again now.
***QUESTION***
Yes Dave, you are 100% correct. Even us older, fatter,
grayer, slower wusses can learn new tricks. I went
from a 4 time loser to being called biggest old stud
in town! Now that was a hell of an ego boost! Especially
since I'm 48 and close to 300 lbs. and yes, at the
moment, I have steady dates for 3 days of the week
every week and 5 others professing their love for
me if only I will come take them away.
Here are what I found to work:
1) Women over 35 expect you to be extremely inventive
with a cocky funny line or extremely truthful. They
all claim it is because they have had so many used
on them, they are totally immune to them. I tend to
go the extremely truthful route. the ie. you look
like the type of woman who would like a funny witty,
intelligent, romantic friend. Have you found any lately???
I want to shake their hand. Or something similar.
2) If you are emailing back and forth and they want
your picture within the first couple of exchanges,
run do not walk, that lady to the discard pile
immediately. Most of those are so shallow they can
not and will not see what they are doing, no matter
how funny and blunt you are. I even tried the
"what's in it for me?" line, only to get the reply of
"me stupid, but only if I like your picture"
3) When the lady says I don't think I'm really your
type, you look them straight in the eye and say "ok,
plenty more where you came from" and turn and walk
away. 9 out of 10 of them will be calling you in 48
hours.
4) They all know about arranging dates for the week
and finding the dates on the weekend. So tell them
you only have like Friday, Saturday OR Sunday open
but not all. Most will tell you to rearrange your
week to fit them in. The ones really really
interested will call you on Saturday to see if you
can go out on the spur of the moment.
5) I tell them all I am too much to handle and too
much to love, so being friends is just perfect. But
I have zero experience in this dating more than one
woman thing at a time. Do you have any advice.
Especially since I am sure to make a lot of mistakes.
Yeah, they all want to arrange more time with me.
So you see, your techniques work. Even my 21 y/o
daughter who reads these occasionally says, "I can't
agree all the way, but damn he sure got the last 5
guys I dated nailed"
Keep up the good work Dave.
M.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Wow, more priceless wisdom.
To answer your question, the way to see more than one
woman at a time is to NOT SEE ANY OF THEM TOO OFTEN.
When you see or talk to a woman more than once or
twice a week, it kicks in the natural "relationship"
emotions and patterns of communication and behavior.
If you keep things to once a week, and sometimes twice,
you'll tend to avoid this.
It's also good to tell the women that you're seeing
that you don't think it's a good idea to get into a
relationship too quickly with someone you just met
(I believe this is a very important idea, myself).
Thanks for the great ideas.
***QUESTION***
Hi David,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your book...very enlightening.
I've always found myself attracting girls I'm not
romantically interested in, while crashing and burning
with the hotties. It was very confusing until I read
your book. I realize now that I was a wuss with the
hotties by being a typical "nice guy", and that the
more I acted indifferent with the girls I didn't like,
the more they ate it up. You gave me a new perspective
on what makes attraction work, and I'm glad to see
that your book pointed out that you don't have to be
a jerk to be successful.
My game has improved but it still requires some refining.
Lately I find I'm stalling out between the first and
second date. So I'm wondering if I'm screwing up the
date itself or the follow-through. Here are the steps
I take after a date:
1) I call within two days to say I had a good time
and basically make contact. I end the conversation
first, and let her know I'll give her a shout in a
couple days...just so I don't seem like I'm rushing
into a second date.
2) I let two or three days pass and call to make
arrangements for a second date. At this point I
usually get a vague answer like "lets set something
up for next week"...and then it never happens.
Where is this falling apart and what kind of follow-
through do you use?
Thanks for the help,
SF
London, Ontario
>>>MY COMMENTS:
I'm going to have to guess at a few things, but I'll
give it a shot.
From the sounds of it, you need to:
1) Stop with the "I had a good time" type comments
when you call for a follow up. You might experiment
with waiting longer to call... or waiting less time
to call. See what works best for you. But don't be
so "nice".
2) Do more things to make your date feel ATTRACTION.
Use what you've learned to really turn the dial up.
You might test progressing further on the first
date... maybe start getting physical faster.
3) Make sure you keep her laughing, and keep busting
on her and treating her like a "friend" at first.
Remember the idea of acting like she's your Bratty
Little Sister.
It sounds like you're doing something on those first
dates that's making the women resistant to seeing you
again... you need to figure out what it is and STOP
IT.
***QUESTION***
David,
On vacation in Mexico, a girl asked me if she was
"super hot" and I said "Yeah, you're alright." Next
thing you know she made it her business to prove to
me how hot she was, including some freaky dancing,
even flashing me, and a little lip action. Moral:
Never give them what they want. I moved in to kiss a
girl a little too early and she backed away. So I
went back to teasing her and on the next attempt I
went straight for the neck, ears, hands in hair and
well you wouldn't believe it; but it worked that time.
Your book has a lot of very good information, thank
you for putting it together. So here's my question:
This girl at my gym is of those that I've always wanted
to talk to but never really had the chance. She was
bartending the other night and I told her I'd seen
her at the gym. She said "yeah, but I don't make it
in there as much lately." I replied "Yeah, I can tell,
you're really letting yourself go." Then she gives me
a shot and asks me if I'd help her with her workout."
She also said she remembered me from the gym and I said
"So you were checking me out?" So I get her number, not
bad, eh? So I'm in the bar for another hour with some
friends and I was going to order a drink from her later,
but it might've seemed like I wanted to talk to her again.
She seemed busy and didn't look at me. Seemingly wuss
behavior or she's just busy? Who knows. That was on
Saturday and I called her on Wednesday, still no reply
and today is Friday. I'm thinking either calling her
once more over the weekend, asking about playing hard
to get and if she just randomly gives out shots, or
maybe going back to her bar in a week or two with some
friends. Again, thank you for all you've done and thanks
in advance for any suggestions.
A.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
I'm going to tell you something here, and leave it to
you to figure out why it's important:
YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT RIGHT AFTER YOU GOT HER NUMBER.
This is SUPER ULTRA EXTRA important... and I want you
to consider it in your mind until you figure out why.
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave,
I got your e-mails for about a month before i actually
bought the books and I regret waiting so long. I
have never been so confident around women. I stand
as a security guard at the entrance of a retail store
and 8's, 9's, and some 10's pass by me everyday. I
used to turn my head and stare away. Now I know what
they want from reading your book and I can look at
them, talk to them, and bust their balls even without
ever meeting them.
I do have a problem though. I took this beautiful
girl out on a first date, the C&F technique worked so
well all night from the movie to the dinner to the
goodnight kiss (tongue included) that we both definitely
wanted a 2nd date. So what's the problem. She can't
stop thinking about me or leaving me alone. I'm getting
10 text messages a day from this girl that I really
only want to date a few times. I'm enjoying this bein
single dating around and she wants me to be with her
everyday. How can I slow this down, without losing
the C&F personality?
Thanks Dave.
MM
Kentucky
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Wow, another guy who my heart goes out to.
I need to write a book called "Cut Your Dating In
Half: A guide for guys who are too successful with my
materials."
I think what you need to do is get together with her
and say: "Look, you're acting like we're married, and
you need to cool it. I think you're great, but I'm
not interested in a relationship right now, so if you
want to keep seeing me, then you're going to need to
chill."
I realize that it sounds a little bit harsh, but it's
the truth, and you need to be direct in a situation
like this one...
OK, if you're reading this right now and you're thinking
to yourself "I really need to get my dating life handled",
then YOU'RE RIGHT.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I can't say that my techniques will absolutely work
for you without question. You're the one that has to
use them...
But I will say that if you get out there and try them,
I think you'll find that they work better than anything
else, and that you'll have more success than you have
now. It took me YEARS to really figure out what women
respond to, and I really believe that ANY guy can
use the material to attract women.
Depending on just HOW shy or nervous you are, you
might need to get that handled... but once you start
working with the techniques, I think you'll be VERY
pleased with the results...
***QUESTION***
Hey -
I am 18 years old and just graduated high school.
I used to be a MAJOR wuss and when I was younger I
was always a shy kid who was picked on a lot because
I was a short, skinny kid that never stood up for
myself. And worst of all, I never took advantage
of high school to get girls! I started getting your
newsletter earlier this year and the cocky + funny
attitude changed my life in more ways than one. I
hang out with guys that get the hottest high school
girls you can ever imagine. Not only do they get 9's
and 10's, I see these girls obsess over them. I was
around them so much that I tried to model thier behavior
around girls and I noticed that EVERYTHING you preach
about, comes to them NATURALLY. Every tip of advice
you've given to guys ACTUALLY works, and Ive seen
it first hand.
I started using cocky + funny myself and even use
lines that Ive seen my friends use in past cases.
I saw a HOT girl in the mall and she was checking
herself out in a pocket mirror so I said "don't worry,
your hair doesn't look THATTT bad". She started laughing
even though I just made fun of her! I asked for her
email and when she said she doenst have the internet,
I used your line "well do you have electricity"?
AGAIN the girl laughed, and I ended up getting her
phone # and I hooked up with her that weekend!
MY QUESTION - my natural personality has transformed
from a wussy shy nice kid to a guy that's gonna bust
your balls, but a nice guy at heart. I made a lot
more girl "friends" too, but whenever they try to
tell me their sad stories, I let them know Im not
their boyfriend and do not care. Whenever I gain the
courage to use cocky+funny, it WORKS but my problem
is even though I've seen this work in action, I fear
I don't know enough cocky+funny lines to keep up a
conversation with a girl. Also, do you recommend
hitting on random strangers you see, because my friends
say they never really hit on strangers unless they
have a reason to go up and talk to them. My friends
also say to ALWAYS have 5 "project girls" and never
focus on one girl. Is this true? please write back.
E from NYC
>>>MY COMMENTS:
It's interesting, because I actually discovered the
Cocky and Funny technique by watching guys who were
good with women. In fact, a guy who is now a good
friend was trying to explain the concept to me a few
years back... and he was the first one to say "Cocky
and Funny". Of course, I had no idea what he was talking
about at the time. It really made no sense to me.
But after I started working with it and watching other
guys who were really successful with women, I learned
how it worked.
It sounds like you're really getting it - congrats!
As for your questions...
Don't worry about being able to "come up with enough
lines to keep up a conversation". Just do what you
can, and enjoy yourself. A few Cocky and Funny lines
used here and there are MUCH better than nothing at
all.
If you feel like approaching strangers, great. If
you just realize that most women are going to be nice,
but some will be either unavailable or unfriendly
then you'll be fine. I have personally had great
success meeting "strangers", and as my good friend
Rick says: Every friend you have started out as a
stranger...
And as for the "5 project girls", you're cracking me
up over here. If you like the idea of staying single
and dating a lot of different women, then this is the
way to do it! Just make sure they don't turn into
your personal "psychological projects".
Thanks for your email.
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave....
I'm a premed student who has been subscribing to your
newsletter for quite a while now. I've been meaning
to buy your book but im not in the habit of using a
credit card so ill have to open an account especially
for this. Anyway, i've been going out with this girl
for 9 months now. She is smart, attractive, and funny.
the way i landed her was by being cocky funny. EXTREMELY
cocky funny. i was always one step ahead of her. It
was kind of like "Dont even TRY to challenge me, im
already inside your head!". everything was cool.
but to tell the truth (and no offense) i just kind
of got tired of the constant effort.....so i cooled
it off a bit not always seizing the opportunity to
remind her just who it is she's dealing with. And i
think i got screwed. Now i feel like i've turned into
a wuss....and i HATE IT!!! no.. I LOATHE IT !!!!!!!!!!
When i turn on the macho act she's a pussy cat again.
You see i want someone to whom i can genuinely be....
just nice to, with her appreciating it and NOT taking
advantage. i mean since this is a long-term relationship
i want someone who will give me a smooth ride without all
that continuos maintenance. I dont wanna be cocky
and tough all my life with her, sometimes a guy just
wants to relax. Is it possible??
F.Z, Lebanon
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Ooooooo, good question.
I've seen a trend in the way guys who are learning to
be Cocky and Funny and to stay in control change.
As they're learning the techniques, they become more
and more attractive to women. Then, they meet a really
amazing woman - a woman that was previously "out of
their league", and they decide to start a relationship.
As soon as they start getting closer, the guy begins
to put aside the things that worked, and start being
more and more submissive... which, of course, drives
this new woman away.
Then I get an email saying "I want to be nice and
sweet and a good guy but still have all the super hot
women calling me 24/7".
Here's what I say:
"BEING YOURSELF" IS A PRIVELEGE THAT YOU HAVE TO EARN,
NOT A RIGHT.
And the way that you earn it is to learn what it takes
to make women feel ATTRACTION, learn what it takes
to NOT drive women away, then make these things part
of "YOURSELF".
Are you with me here?
The problem is that "being yourself" for a lot of
guys means "being the type of guy that women don't
feel any ATTRACTION for".
If you can't make a woman feel the emotion of ATTRACTION,
then there's really nothing I can do to help you. If
you're not willing to do the work and make the changes
more or less permanent, then you're going to have a
long uphill battle.
And in your case, you have to realize that this woman
was attracted to you for a REASON, and if you stop
that REASON, then you're going to stop the ATTRACTION.
***QUESTION***
Whats goin on Dave?
I would love to say how great your stuff works, but
I haven't had much luck with it as of yet. I have
seen it put to good use though. My bro does the whole
cocky/funny routine naturally and I see all its power.
Most of the time I was Mr. Nice-Guy. and, of course,
it didn't work as much as I would like. Which is why
I'm writing this e-mail.(duh)
My problem is I'm missing the key ingredient to your
'super recipe,' funny. The way I see it, cocky is
like garlic, by itself it is repulsive and disgusting.
But when used as a seasoning to another main dish (funny),
it can do wonders. I'm missing the main dish. Anyone
can be cocky, but I lack in the funny department. So
where do I start to fix this?
Thanks,
P in NJ
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Humor has a structure, and it can be learned. Some
people seem to have an easier time learning how
to be funny, but I've seen some not-too-funny people
become VERY funny with practice.
Read some books, watch Comedy Central, and practice.
Start a journal and write down funny lines you hear
so you can use them later.
Get with your Bro' and watch him. Ask him for advice
and ideas. Practice. You can learn how to be funny
and it's important that you do if you want to attract
women!
As I'm sure you know, my book has some of my very
favorite "standard" lines for different situations,
plus more on how to create specific humor for
specific situations.
For all the details, go to:
http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/e/eBook/
***COMMENT***
Dave,
I know that you put real stories in these letters
because I sent one in and it appeared exactly as I
had written it. I laughed till I cried over the
"fat, pimply, and hairy" story.
You are "Da man" I look forward to your wit in these
letters and I must admit I'm going to buy your book.
GJ
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, all of the email letters I print in my newsletters
are ALL real. Every single one of them. I wish I had
more time in the day, because I get hundreds of them a week...
Thanks for the compliments, and enjoy.
***QUESTION***
Ok David, first off, I would like to say thank you
for taking the years that you did to get all of this
great info., and then be generous enough to spread
the knowledge. Here is my situation. I knew this
girl back in high school, and I haven't seen her since
graduation (about 2 yrs ago). I bumped into her the
other day and WOW (she is a 9.5 easy). Well, having
not yet tried out any of your techniques, I thought
"What the hell, let's go for it." It worked. The c/f
technique was golden. Got her email AND number. Well,
we eventually went out and had a great time. A couple
of days later, I went over to see her new place, and
well, things got a little wild. (it all started with
your amazing kiss technique- thanks again) So here's
the deal. She likes me a lot, and I like her a lot,
but I have been playing back in order to keep the ugly
head of the "wussy" out of the picture. When is a good
time (or is there a good time at all) to be serious with her?
Do I bust on her all the time, b/c I don't want her
to think I am a jerk? Any help you can give is great.
Thanks again.
ME
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, I don't exactly know what you mean by "serious".
If you mean "When can I talk about how I'm sad because
my dog got run over and my inner child needs a hug",
then NEVER is the answer. Well, maybe you can have
one "serious" conversation like this on the 10th date,
and it can last no longer than 5 minutes.
Just stay away from heavy emotional issues, problems,
drama, and general WUSS topics.
If you need a friend, GET A DOG!
lol... I forgot where that line is from, but I love
it.
***QUESTION***
Mr. DeAngelo,
Well, I've got to say, after trying many, many different
methods, yours have been the first ones to work. I
cut and pasted your online personal add and sent it
out to a few women on a college-oriented site. This
is after trying (unsuccessfully) for many months to
get any sort of response from the women on the site.
Before reading the newsletters, I would've typically
sent out about 20 e-mails, and got 1 response if I
was lucky. This time, however, I sent out about 5 or
6, and got 3 replies the next day! Unbelievable! Now,
for the tricky part...getting the number and the date.
I've got some leads, and I want to keep my C&F attitude
up. I'm just normally funny, but need practice at
being cocky. (I'm either too subtle, or too extreme,
so I'm practicing at finding a middle ground.) But,
in the meantime, what kind of C&F response would you
give to a University-aged woman?
G.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Good job.
There are all kinds of great topics you could work
with.
You could make fun of the classes they're taking,
bust on them for taking easy classes, accuse them of
taking 10 years to get a 4 year degree... the list is
endless.
Since you're going to be meeting these women at some
point, make sure you go and do things with them that
have "built in conversation value". Go to interesting,
fun parts of town with unusual and interesting shops.
This kind of thing creates all kinds of opportunity
for great comments... and it keeps the energy up all
by itself.
Now that you're meeting women online, do yourself a
big favor and practice your skills CHATTING with
women.
Chatting is great because it slows the conversation
down to about 1/5 the normal speed, and gives you
time to plan out what you're saying.
***QUESTION***
Dear Dave,
I'm real sorry but I still cannot figure out how to
build bridges after getting the email address. Normally
the next day I send the lady an email, she replies
and then I can't think what on earth else to do. My
overall goal is to get with her - so can you help me man?
I.M.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Yes, I think I can help.
1. Set up a meeting for tea.
2. Have her stop by your place on the way to tea.
3. Have fun, interesting conversation.
4. Invite her back to your place.
5. Use the Kiss Test.
6. Use your creativity and imagination.
Don't focus too much on "getting with her", just
focus on getting to THE NEXT STEP.
In other words, when you email don't say something
like:
"Hi, it was great meeting you. I'm single and nice,
and you seem like you'd make a great girlfriend for a
sweet, desperate loser like myself."
Stay off of heavy conversation. Don't talk about
relationships and marriage, etc. Just talk and enjoy
yourself. But keep progressing as you do.
As long as you relax and make each progressive step
easy and natural, you'll be fine.
Again, just take it one step at a time.
***QUESTION***
Hi David:
I'm 42 and a bald, average, confident guy. After being
recently divorced (Dec/01) after 24 yrs and thoroughly
confused about dating and what women want. I bought
[another dating book] and was even more scared to
do any of what was asked to do. I bought your course
and coupled with watching the players in clubs I knew
C&F was the answer. I used it successfully on over
(9) women since Jan/02 all resulting in them wanting
much, much more* than I was willing to give. They all
call from time-to-time for fun!
*Here is where I have the problem and it might help
others trying for this type of relationship. I am
single and love my Space and I want to have fun for a
while and eventually marry again I'm looking for Her
and it takes a while to see if she is Her I get them
hooked way too fast and not trying to do so This is
how: Women are attracted to C&F, They want fun and
excitement; I think I know why they want funny for
the fun things to do in life (too many boring guys
out there) and the cocky part piques their inner flames
to what could happen as far as passion. If when you
are passionate with them you have to be a Leader and
show them as bad a boy as they can handle. This has
in all instances so far lead them to call me and pursue
me: the next day and weeks ahead. They want a far
deeper relationship. They want C&F in their lives.
These are not clingy people (7-9's) (24-44yrs) and
profess to want to be friends first. Email is great
as it has a way of helping them say things they wished
they could say in person. Do you have any wisdom on
how to do C&F and not hit all of her senses?
Thanks Again for C&F
J.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
lol... you poor, poor dear. Sounds tough, really.
I think you're doing fine. You're on the right track,
and I think that you're going to find an outstanding
woman to have a longer-term relationship with.
I personally think that the problem isn't the techniques
you're using, it's that you're now seeing that YOU
CAN CHOOSE A WOMAN, rather than having HER CHOOSE YOU...
and it's making you far more SELECTIVE than you were
in the past.
When you're seeing several attractive women at the
same time, you begin to realize that you can have
whatever you want. You no longer have to settle.
This has the effect of making you a lot pickier
about what you'll tolerate... and it makes you see
negatives a lot more clearly in women.
Again, I think you're doing fine. Just stick with it
and you'll find a great woman to marry again, if
that's what you want.
***QUESTION***
Hi Dave.
I don't think the cocky/funny technique will work for
me. I'm 19 y/o, 5' 3" and 117 lb. I have an average
build, dark hair and blue eyes. I also have a fetish
for girls with big bellies. What do you think? Be
honest.
SO
Birmingham, England
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Well, if I can get myself to stop laughing, maybe I
can answer you!
OK, let's make sure I have the facts straight here...
You're five foot three, weigh 117, and LIKE WOMEN
WITH BIG BELLIES?
Honestly, I think you're right... I don't think that
the Cocky and Funny technique will work for you... in
fact
...I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GOING TO WORK FOR YOU.
Make sure you don't tell any of your other guy friends
about this. It might get ugly.
By the way, you may not have considered this, but
women with big bellies usually got them from eating a
lot... and my guess is that they might be expensive
dates.
Watch out.
***SUCCESS STORY***
Dave:
Dated someone for 4 years. Turned into a wussy boy
a couple times, and both times she left me for the
same guy. This guy was a selfish, conceited jerk,
but he was the ONLY guy she's ever dated who she couldn't
wrap around her finger. He was an impossible challenge...
and so her sexual attraction to him was enormous.
(Hmmm...is there a lesson to be learned here...?)
Since we broke up about a year ago, I've been reading
your newsletters and your ebooks. Now I'M the challenging
one. I don't flatter women with compliments, I don't
buy drinks or flowers, I split the dinner tab, I don't
always call (or call back) every day, I keep my social
life busy and interesting. And I never ever EVER lose
my composure with a woman - no matter how much I'm
attracted to them. (In truth: I caved to one woman,
told her how attracted I was to her, and instantly
found myself in the "just friends" pit of no return.
Oops. Had to learn the hard way.) Now every time a
woman tries to test my level of "wussiness" I completely
annihilate them with a cocky+funny comment...and they
LOVE me for it. And...of course...guess who suddenly
wants to date me again...
Thanks D,
M.S.
Chicago
P.S. Took this off the end of the 1st paragraph
above...it was getting too long, but I love this
perspective from a woman: While investigating this
illogical phenomenon, I asked a somewhat-attractive
female friend of mine "so...can you shed any light
onto the whole 'why women are attracted to jerks'
idea?" And her answer (quote): "Because we're
too leery of a nice guy. Nice guys creep me out.
They seem like I can walk all over them and I hate
that. Women want a bit of a challenge."
>>>MY COMMENTS:
This is truth from the mountain. Read it 100 times a
day.
Print it and tape it to your computer monitor.
Put a copy in your wallet... next to the money so you
see it often.
Put one on your car sun visor and mirror.
And go read it again now.
***QUESTION***
Yes Dave, you are 100% correct. Even us older, fatter,
grayer, slower wusses can learn new tricks. I went
from a 4 time loser to being called biggest old stud
in town! Now that was a hell of an ego boost! Especially
since I'm 48 and close to 300 lbs. and yes, at the
moment, I have steady dates for 3 days of the week
every week and 5 others professing their love for
me if only I will come take them away.
Here are what I found to work:
1) Women over 35 expect you to be extremely inventive
with a cocky funny line or extremely truthful. They
all claim it is because they have had so many used
on them, they are totally immune to them. I tend to
go the extremely truthful route. the ie. you look
like the type of woman who would like a funny witty,
intelligent, romantic friend. Have you found any lately???
I want to shake their hand. Or something similar.
2) If you are emailing back and forth and they want
your picture within the first couple of exchanges,
run do not walk, that lady to the discard pile
immediately. Most of those are so shallow they can
not and will not see what they are doing, no matter
how funny and blunt you are. I even tried the
"what's in it for me?" line, only to get the reply of
"me stupid, but only if I like your picture"
3) When the lady says I don't think I'm really your
type, you look them straight in the eye and say "ok,
plenty more where you came from" and turn and walk
away. 9 out of 10 of them will be calling you in 48
hours.
4) They all know about arranging dates for the week
and finding the dates on the weekend. So tell them
you only have like Friday, Saturday OR Sunday open
but not all. Most will tell you to rearrange your
week to fit them in. The ones really really
interested will call you on Saturday to see if you
can go out on the spur of the moment.
5) I tell them all I am too much to handle and too
much to love, so being friends is just perfect. But
I have zero experience in this dating more than one
woman thing at a time. Do you have any advice.
Especially since I am sure to make a lot of mistakes.
Yeah, they all want to arrange more time with me.
So you see, your techniques work. Even my 21 y/o
daughter who reads these occasionally says, "I can't
agree all the way, but damn he sure got the last 5
guys I dated nailed"
Keep up the good work Dave.
M.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Wow, more priceless wisdom.
To answer your question, the way to see more than one
woman at a time is to NOT SEE ANY OF THEM TOO OFTEN.
When you see or talk to a woman more than once or
twice a week, it kicks in the natural "relationship"
emotions and patterns of communication and behavior.
If you keep things to once a week, and sometimes twice,
you'll tend to avoid this.
It's also good to tell the women that you're seeing
that you don't think it's a good idea to get into a
relationship too quickly with someone you just met
(I believe this is a very important idea, myself).
Thanks for the great ideas.
***QUESTION***
Hi David,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading your book...very enlightening.
I've always found myself attracting girls I'm not
romantically interested in, while crashing and burning
with the hotties. It was very confusing until I read
your book. I realize now that I was a wuss with the
hotties by being a typical "nice guy", and that the
more I acted indifferent with the girls I didn't like,
the more they ate it up. You gave me a new perspective
on what makes attraction work, and I'm glad to see
that your book pointed out that you don't have to be
a jerk to be successful.
My game has improved but it still requires some refining.
Lately I find I'm stalling out between the first and
second date. So I'm wondering if I'm screwing up the
date itself or the follow-through. Here are the steps
I take after a date:
1) I call within two days to say I had a good time
and basically make contact. I end the conversation
first, and let her know I'll give her a shout in a
couple days...just so I don't seem like I'm rushing
into a second date.
2) I let two or three days pass and call to make
arrangements for a second date. At this point I
usually get a vague answer like "lets set something
up for next week"...and then it never happens.
Where is this falling apart and what kind of follow-
through do you use?
Thanks for the help,
SF
London, Ontario
>>>MY COMMENTS:
I'm going to have to guess at a few things, but I'll
give it a shot.
From the sounds of it, you need to:
1) Stop with the "I had a good time" type comments
when you call for a follow up. You might experiment
with waiting longer to call... or waiting less time
to call. See what works best for you. But don't be
so "nice".
2) Do more things to make your date feel ATTRACTION.
Use what you've learned to really turn the dial up.
You might test progressing further on the first
date... maybe start getting physical faster.
3) Make sure you keep her laughing, and keep busting
on her and treating her like a "friend" at first.
Remember the idea of acting like she's your Bratty
Little Sister.
It sounds like you're doing something on those first
dates that's making the women resistant to seeing you
again... you need to figure out what it is and STOP
IT.
***QUESTION***
David,
On vacation in Mexico, a girl asked me if she was
"super hot" and I said "Yeah, you're alright." Next
thing you know she made it her business to prove to
me how hot she was, including some freaky dancing,
even flashing me, and a little lip action. Moral:
Never give them what they want. I moved in to kiss a
girl a little too early and she backed away. So I
went back to teasing her and on the next attempt I
went straight for the neck, ears, hands in hair and
well you wouldn't believe it; but it worked that time.
Your book has a lot of very good information, thank
you for putting it together. So here's my question:
This girl at my gym is of those that I've always wanted
to talk to but never really had the chance. She was
bartending the other night and I told her I'd seen
her at the gym. She said "yeah, but I don't make it
in there as much lately." I replied "Yeah, I can tell,
you're really letting yourself go." Then she gives me
a shot and asks me if I'd help her with her workout."
She also said she remembered me from the gym and I said
"So you were checking me out?" So I get her number, not
bad, eh? So I'm in the bar for another hour with some
friends and I was going to order a drink from her later,
but it might've seemed like I wanted to talk to her again.
She seemed busy and didn't look at me. Seemingly wuss
behavior or she's just busy? Who knows. That was on
Saturday and I called her on Wednesday, still no reply
and today is Friday. I'm thinking either calling her
once more over the weekend, asking about playing hard
to get and if she just randomly gives out shots, or
maybe going back to her bar in a week or two with some
friends. Again, thank you for all you've done and thanks
in advance for any suggestions.
A.
>>>MY COMMENTS:
I'm going to tell you something here, and leave it to
you to figure out why it's important:
YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT RIGHT AFTER YOU GOT HER NUMBER.
This is SUPER ULTRA EXTRA important... and I want you
to consider it in your mind until you figure out why.
***QUESTION***
Hey Dave,
I got your e-mails for about a month before i actually
bought the books and I regret waiting so long. I
have never been so confident around women. I stand
as a security guard at the entrance of a retail store
and 8's, 9's, and some 10's pass by me everyday. I
used to turn my head and stare away. Now I know what
they want from reading your book and I can look at
them, talk to them, and bust their balls even without
ever meeting them.
I do have a problem though. I took this beautiful
girl out on a first date, the C&F technique worked so
well all night from the movie to the dinner to the
goodnight kiss (tongue included) that we both definitely
wanted a 2nd date. So what's the problem. She can't
stop thinking about me or leaving me alone. I'm getting
10 text messages a day from this girl that I really
only want to date a few times. I'm enjoying this bein
single dating around and she wants me to be with her
everyday. How can I slow this down, without losing
the C&F personality?
Thanks Dave.
MM
Kentucky
>>>MY COMMENTS:
Wow, another guy who my heart goes out to.
I need to write a book called "Cut Your Dating In
Half: A guide for guys who are too successful with my
materials."
I think what you need to do is get together with her
and say: "Look, you're acting like we're married, and
you need to cool it. I think you're great, but I'm
not interested in a relationship right now, so if you
want to keep seeing me, then you're going to need to
chill."
I realize that it sounds a little bit harsh, but it's
the truth, and you need to be direct in a situation
like this one...
OK, if you're reading this right now and you're thinking
to yourself "I really need to get my dating life handled",
then YOU'RE RIGHT.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I can't say that my techniques will absolutely work
for you without question. You're the one that has to
use them...
But I will say that if you get out there and try them,
I think you'll find that they work better than anything
else, and that you'll have more success than you have
now. It took me YEARS to really figure out what women
respond to, and I really believe that ANY guy can
use the material to attract women.
Depending on just HOW shy or nervous you are, you
might need to get that handled... but once you start
working with the techniques, I think you'll be VERY
pleased with the results...