How To Start Conversations With Women


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dear Dave,

I give you gratitude in SPADES. Now fully converted
against the way of the WUSSY, my knowledge is expanding
like Oprah's waistline. For your entertainment, Jedi
Master, I bring you my latest tale of triumph (your
loyal band of apprentices could put this to use as
well).... three moons ago I found myself in a familiar
terrain (an alcohol infused celebration inside a residential
dwelling)...but this time my noggin was armed with
Dave's boost of mackishness. 5 minutes after arrival,
my optical sockets fell upon the physical structure
of a quite genetically fortunate femenine specimen
(about a penny short of a dime). I made eye contact
and kept it with her as I made my approach. I began
my "player patter" immediately and the dialogue went
as follows...

Me: You know what they say about girls who wear these,
right? (pointing to her large hoop earrings)
Her: What?

(I pause for a few seconds, then crack a hint of a
smile)

Me: That you cant afford enough jewelry, so you use
your bracelets as earrings.

(her jaw dropped, obviously surprised...then turned
into a smile)

Me (pretending like she said I was right about her):
Dammit, I hate it when Im right! Are all the rich
girls taken or what? (I start walking away, but she
grabs me by the arm)
Her: What's your name?

Me: That depends...you tell me your name, and if I
like it I'll tell you mine.
Her: R

Me: Alright R, before I tell you my name you gotta
tell me something.
Her: Okay, what?

Me (stealing one of your lines): So what, are you
like four feet tall without the shoes?
(she laughs and hits me in the arm)
Her: You dont like my shoes?

Me: Well, they look okay on you I guess....since you're
a MIDGET and all. But they'd make a normal size
woman look freakishly tall.
Her (laughing): Your so mean! And you haven't told
me your name yet.

Me: You women are always trying to pick me up for
my good looks...I need to know that you arent a wierdo
before I tell you my name. Ive had stalker problems
in the past.

And it was on after that. After I handed her a
few more ball busting comments that got increasingly
sexual...she handed ME an invitation to her innards.
10 minutes later we were upstairs desecrating a futon.
That was the first time I've done push-ups at a party!
:) Not to mention Ive gotten three phone calls from
her since then (two were invites to her quarters to...ahem,
"bury my muscle", hehehe). Make no mistake about it
readers, C&f WORKS! Dave, I wish I could thank you
in 3D, but since that isnt an option...I wish you a
long and fruitful life filled with good times and
hot x-chromosomes who could suck a barnacle off a
rock. Ive also got a couple questions, but I'll shoot
my flares toward you on a later date.

Sincerely,
GD, Seattle


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Well then.

You're obviously one who totally understands the concept
of being "Cocky & Funny" with women, and using it
to amplify ATTRACTION.

Love it.

This is a great story... thanks!



***QUESTION***

Hey david, I bought your ebook and so far I've been
getting more numbers (around 2 or 3 a week) than I
ever did in my life. I usually don't do as much cf
as just maintain composure and confidence when talking
to girls, and the email + phone number technique works
great. However, I do have a slight problem. I've gotten
girls on the phone and we set up a meeting (for a cup
of coffee) after I've gotten them to laugh and stuff,
then they tell me they're already seeing someone and
that they want to make sure we are just meeting as friends.
Am I doing something wrong? Or did these girls actually
think I wanted to be "just friends?" Or yet, are these
girls trying to test me in some way? Anyways, I appreciate
your help.

DC 18, Cali


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Here's a rule of thumb for you:

If you start hearing things like "I just want to be
friends" or "I'm kind of seeing someone right now"
when you call women on the phone, it probably means
that you're doing something when you FIRST MEET the
women that is causing them to see you as a "nice guy
friend" type.

You're probably not using what you've learned to create
what is known as "sexual tension" and ATTRACTION.

If you don't quite get how these things work at first,
that's OK. Just keep doing what you're learning, and
you'll start to get a better feel.

I would say that you should START using the Cocky
& Funny material as soon as possible, because it does
create this tension and attraction early on.

I also suggest that you start getting EMAILS and not
just numbers. Women tend to respond better to emails
in my personal experience.



***COMMENT***

David,

A few months ago, I sent you an e-mail asking whether
or not C&F works on older women. To recap, I am in
my late 30s and am looking for women in the age 30-45
range. I tried C&F on "Kelly", a 43 y/o divorced woman
that I know. "Kelly" facially looks 30, bodily looks
25, i.e. she keeps herself in good shape. In applying
"C&F" to her, I discovered that with women her age
appreciate it, but you have to be more subtle with it
and much more creative. Why? Because 30- and 40-somethings
have usually "been around the block" more and are a
somewhat more sophisticated than a 21 year old. And
they appreciate it more when a guy shows some sophistication
around them. Anyway, the night I was hitting on "Kelly,"
she was wearing a leopard print top and a leather skirt,
both of which made her look hot! I "busted her balls"
by getting on her case about how the leopard is an
endangered species, and how dare she wear an endangered
species (the top was rayon). She then asked why I
didn't get on her for wearing leather which really
came from an animal. I replied that if people didn't
eat burgers and wear leather, we'd be up to our armpits
in cows! She loved it! Now here comes the comment
part of this e-mail: within 5 minutes, I asked her for
her e-mail, which she gave and then her phone number,
which she refused to give me at first. When she answered
"no", I immediately asked "How often do you answer your
e-mail?" Guys, notice what I did here? I was not thrown
off by her initial refusal. Women are sometimes hesitant
to give out their numbers, and they have every right to
be...there are a lot of a#holes around. She didn't give
her number out, but she was interested in keeping communication
open between us. There's an old saying in sales that
"no" means "know". She wanted to know me a little better
before she gave out the number. (In sales, that is called
a "false objection"). So guys, don't pester a woman if
she doesn't give you her number immediately. Don't lose
control and get thrown off. IF she's giving you her e-mail,
she's interested. (By the way guys, try flirting sometime
with an older, still-hot woman. It's good practice, you'll
really make her day, and you might find out what an experienced
woman can do for you).

P


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Nice insight.

It is VERY important to not let a woman's initial
"resistance" throw you off and cause you to quit.
Often, a woman just wants to talk to you a little
more and get to know you a little better before she
gives out her info.

The more you interact with women, the better you'll
get at creating a "comfortable" mood with women that
will lead to them giving you their contact info quickly.

As far as being more "subtle" and creative with the
older, more sophisticated women... agreed. Thanks for
the great example.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Hello Big D.

I've been reading your newsletter for two weeks
now and will begin downloading your book as soon as
I hit Send. I just wanted to take a minute to tell
you that I've never had so much fun. For as long
as I can remember, I've been "addicted" to the idea
of chivalry, and being the nicest guy any woman has
ever met. Your ideas are so foreign to me, and yet
so familiar. I've always been somewhat funny and often
accused of being a cocky bastard, usually by male
friends. As I reflected on high school and college
days, I remembered female friends who I treated "like
one of the guys" - they were ALWAYS hanging around.
I couldn't figure out why THEY hung around but the
women I was interested in ran away. I was the biggest
pansy-ass wuss that ever walked the campus. I opened
their doors, stood when they sat down or left the
table, always had kind words to say etc etc etc. AND
I JUST DIDN'T GET IT ( And I mean that in more ways
than one ) After reading your newsletter for two weeks,
I figured I'd give your "psycho method" (sorry that's
what I thought - at first ) a shot. OMG! The first
woman (girl?) I met at a store basically threw herself
at me while I was buying some stuff at her register.
I gave her a bad time about the silly shirt she was
wearing and suggested she follow me to the clothing
section to pick out something more flattering. She said
"OK, I'm going on break now anyway". I'm not terrible
looking, but this girl was an 8+ AND I'm 38 she couldn't
have been more than 26. To make a long story short
we had a good time ;-) she didn't mind the age difference
at all. On the way home, that same night, I stopped
at a gas station to fill up. A gorgeous hottie (much
closer to my own age) had just finished filling her tank.
So I said - "Hey sweetie, fillerup, and check the oil
too." She laughed and said she didnt work there. I
said "So? are you gonna check my oil or what? I'll
pump the gas myself" as I began pumping the gas, she
walked over and told me to pop the hood! Damn! I popped
the hood and she checked the oil for me! As we walked
together to pay I told her I was impressed that she
found the dipstick and checked the oil without breaking
a nail. Again she laughed and SHE opened the door
for ME paid for her fuel and waited for me to pay
(and buy a bunch of crap I didn't need just to see if
she'd hang around). She took my arm as I walked with
her to her car (this time I opened her door) she got
in and I walked away then, just as she started to leave,
I stopped her and got her email and digits She made me
PROMISE to call her, which took me three days, and in
that time I've busted on 6 other women. I doubt I'll ever
completely loose my "chivalrous habits" but, I still
can't believe a woman doesn't want "Nice" on some occasions,
just not ALL the look forward to a bit of reading and a
lot of success with women.

Thank you,

Former Utah Wuss.

P.S. One comment in a recent newsletter was RIGHT
ON! The underground society of Double Your Dating
fanatics are not in Ogden, Utah. We are a couple
of counties south and, when I finish your book I WILL
BE THEIR KING!!!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Any man who can have a female stranger checking his
oil and opening doors for him within minutes of meeting
is basically my idol.

The best part of your approach is that it was FUN
for her as well. I love this stuff.

And as for the girl at the store who you felt pity
on and decided to give private fashion lessons... this
is an AMAZING example of how attractive women often
respond to men who give them a hard time.

You know, I think I'm going to run down to the gas
station and see if I can't get some hot woman to check
my oil...



***COMMENT***

Good comments overall. I've been getting your newsletter
and it's really been a help. Anyhow, I'm a musician.
As a professional cornetist, singer, and conductor,
I focus a lot on posture and the voice. One of your last
newsletters said:

"Suck in your stomach, hold your head up and back,
pull your shoulders back, arch your back..."

You missed the key to all of this, LIFT THE CHEST.
Place your hand at the bottom of your sternum and use
it as a guide to lift the chest. When the chest is
lifted correctly, the stomach muscles will lie flat,
without having to suck it in, the back will be arched,
and the shoulders will be back in a more natural position.

Also, in body language, high shoulders indicate stress,
while lower, relaxed shoulders indicate confidence
and control.

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents on this one.
Keep up the good work!

~A.L.Q.~


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Thanks for the advice!

I just put my hand at the bottom of my sternum and
"lifted my chest", and it is EXACTLY what I was talking
about.

This is a great exercise.




***QUESTION***

Dear Dave,

I have a success story and a question about your
material.

First of all, I recently purchased your e-book and
the CD audio series (which are incredible) I have put
the material in use the past several weeks and I have
had more success with women than in the past ten years
combined!!

I recently was at a coffee shop with a friend when
I noticed sitting next to us a group of three women,
one who was particularly attractive and comely. I saw
that she was wiping tears from her eyes and I just looked
at her and said, "Don't start crying, I have not left
here yet". Lo and behold she looked at me with amazement
and then started smiling. I found out that she was
hanging out with her friends and that she was quite
emotional about the recent breakup with her boyfriend.
I continued being C& F with her and was able to leave
with her e-mail and number (all thanks to you Dave).

Now, I have a tough question that has been bothering
me for a while. There have been several times I have
gone out with a woman and jokingly teased them (about
not knowing how to read a map for example). I'll bust
on them for not knowing their right from their left.
They all start laughing and saying" You're so mean"
or " I thought you were a nice guy". Now, the question
is: How do you know when you are being cocky and funny
vs. downright mean? ( I know that the funny part is
important and you need a fine balance of C & F). I
think sometimes teasing a woman in a joking manner
truly upsets them. Any help on this matter would be
appreciated.

Disciple -in-training in Virginia


>>>MY COMMENTS:

This is a GREAT question!

The fact is that sometimes you're going to meet a
woman who just doesn't have a sense of humor, isn't
in a good mood... is feeling hormonal... or whatever.

Or sometimes you'll just make a comment that is LAME.

It happens.

As they say in cooking:

"You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."

You just have to accept the idea that when you're
learning how to use this material that you're going
to occasionally run into a woman who doesn't get your
humor.

Don't worry about it.

Here are my personal ways to disarm one of these situations:

1) Say "It was a joke" with deadpan serious look on
your face.

Saying "it was a joke" in this manner is very funny
all by itself, because your serious look contradicts
the words. This will often get a laugh all by itself
and allow you to continue with the line of Cocky &
Funny humor you were using in the first place.

2) Give her a "sly smile".

The sly smile is a great way to interrupt a woman
who is taking you too seriously. As she starts to
get upset, just squint your eyes a little, purse your
lips, and smile with a look of "You're cute when you're
mad".

3) Start laughing.

This is another personal favorite. Just start laughing
as she starts to get offended. Even tell her that she's
cute and needs to lighten up a little.

...all of these work well when women are GENUINELY
offended or upset, because they communicate that you
were kidding around.

But here's a warning: Don't use these TOO much. If
you use them when she's not actually offended, they'll
make you look weak and insecure.

In general, women love to "play like they're offended"
when you tease them.

For instance, a woman might open her mouth with that
"I can't believe you just said that look". This is usually
the signal to TURN IT UP! Keep going. Most women know
you're just flirting with them... so don't turn into
a WUSSY at the first sign of emotion.



***QUESTION***

Hello Dave.

I recently ordered your book, and wanted to say
it was like you had brought to light feelings I always
suspected but never could quite put into words. I
have been in college for 2 years now, and am always
amazed by how attracted women are to the guys who
seem to be a little rough with them. (By "rough", I
mean personality-wise), especially when guys like
me (who would do mostly anything for them) were all
over. I am now trying to bring out the cocky and
funny in me and apply your ideas.

I have a girlfriend who has always been controlling.
Her having a lot of what I wanted (hot, intelligent,
career-focused) wanted to keep her around, and gave
her whatever she wanted. I could tell exactly what
you mentioned in your book - that she was actually
becoming less interested in me because of it. I got
the feeling I was more "there to give to her" rather
than share a great relationship with. Now, I tried
some of your techniques with her the other day. She
hates surprises. I told her I had one. She insisted
I tell her what it was, and resorted to some pretty
harsh and bitchy tactics to try to get what she wanted,
including calling names and even threatening to leave!
I simply came back at her with a retort every time that
indicated I really could give a damn, and even that
I was getting amused by her little rant and rave. You
know what? There came a point I have never seen with
her...she actually backed down. She suddenly changed
the subject, and started acting VERY responsive to me,
suddenly seeming to care more about what I was doing
in life, how I was, etc.

Now, I don't know if it matters, but we have recently
become long-distance. My question is this: You say
that once a woman sees you as a certain type of personality
(I would be the wussy-boy), it is very hard to back-pedal
and become somebody different in her eyes. She seems
like the type of woman you describe as one who likes
to have a boyfriend around for a while, and maybe even
marry, but really is only trying to take what she's
being given by a man-boy. By the response I got from
her to my latest test, it seemed as though she had the
potential to turn right around, and that even after
one application of your techniques, that she may have
started to see me differently...that fast.

So, is it worth it? Can I re-mold my personality
with this girl, or am I out of luck. By the way, we
had been seeing each other for 9 months, and just recently
started dating long-distance when she switched colleges.
I think that actually helped the situation, because
she doesn't have as much control or perspective about
me from a distance as she would in person. What would
you say I could do? Is she hopeless?

-Thanks for your great material. I'm already putting
a lot of faith in it after this quick test.

-J (ex wuss-to-be)



>>>MY COMMENTS:

It's rare that I comment on "relationship" issues,
but your email caught my attention... so here goes.

There are exceptions to every "rule of thumb".

My general rule on this topic goes something like
this:

If a woman thinks of you as a WUSS, it's probably
better to cut your losses and move on than to try to
convince her that you're NOT a wuss.

Trying to chance a first impression is hard work,
and relationships between two or more people are rather
difficult to re-adjust after becoming set... unless
you're an expert at it, which most people aren't.

But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't "test" to
see if your particular situation has potential.

If you're willing to change your wussy ways, start
being strong and confident, and not being the clingy
girly-man that you once were, then give it a shot.

Women can feel a REAL INTERNAL shift, and many times
they'll respond.

If things start working out they way you want them
to, then stick with what's working.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Hey David

I was reading a recent mail bag and a tip you
mentioned - '...talk to a woman like she was an old
friend...' struck a chord. I was at a party on saturday,
talking to this girl and, you know making her laugh,
keeping it cocky, busting her balls and she said out
of the blue its wierd, it seems like I've known you
forever'. Wow!!!

Since starting with your materials (and some other
life changes that I've made) my success has improved
remarkably - I'm still below were I won't to be, but
just the fact I can actually talk to an attractive
woman, hold their attention, be (very) funny and be
confident in that type of situation is a vast improvement,
believe me.

A lot of the 'inner game' strategies have helped too
mental rehearsal, making friends with guys who are
genuine players, no staying home every friday night,
actually working out (its been six months know and
that has made such a difference to my self image)
and most importantly, making a commitment to myself
to take responsibility and put the hards in. Its a
hell of a lot of work and its very scary when I realize
just how much I don't know, but its definitely been
worth it, especially the increase in the quality of
my life and the level of control I now know I have.

So thanks Dave, You've helped me get of the couch,
put down the remote and start to become, literally,
a man :) If I keep this up I may even get laid soon
- lol!

N H (from Australia)

PS Killer line I use now when talking to a girl and
busting her balls (it just came out of the blue during
a phone call) It what I call the 'a-list' routine.
Essentially - when sorting the first date or just bring
cocky funny - I imply that there are not my 'a-list'
friends/ option, so I'm spending time with them until
a list people come along. And then I use it as a running
gag - so hows life in the b list, you must feel so
special now (as I slowly advance them from c to b++
list, but never a-list!) Its sound weird but it works
like a charm, done the right way. I've got several
dates... from this approach!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Thanks for the compliments on my CD Series. I'm glad
you're enjoying it.

The technique of acting like she's an old friend is
powerful indeed.

Once you master this relaxed state of thinking and
behaving, you'll find that MOST of the women that you
talk to say things like "I feel like I've known you
all my life" etc.

And the best part about this is that IT'S EASY.

Most guys get all uptight when they're talking to
attractive women. It's so much easier to stay relaxed
and just act like you're talking to an old friend...

And as for your "a-list" routine...

That's funny!

Any ways you can communicate that you're picky and
selective will only increase the ATTRACTION present
in the situation.

Great stuff.



***QUESTION***

David

I just bought the CD advanced series and I would
like to recommend it to anyone who read the book,
this is by far the best stuff coming out from your
'terrible' women magnetic mind, loved every one of
them. You kept me up nights and disrupted my whole
last week at work , u shall pay for it . Well.the
least you can do is extract me from my little hell
in paradise and solve my dilemma.

I have used the system on this 10-10 gal , she is
nearly double my height, we get looks all the time,
but who cares. Problem is women automatically get
attracted to me, thinking what the hell is this guy
hiding under his sleeve. I'm 32, look closer to 36,
short and even a bit over weight and having a blast
with this 20 year old slim tall model. Their eyes
say, 'hey , lemme have a piece of you too, u must
be doing something right'. Problem is, every time
I go out with her, girls look, smile, wink at me behind
her back, trying to get my attention. How can I capitalize
on that, I wont their No's, I'm greedy, I want more!
Slipping them my number without speaking to them,
would be against the grain of your system, so what
to do? This is hell in paradise! girls starting up
with me, and I cannot do anything! u must have some
idea!

D


>>>MY COMMENTS:

OK, let me get this straight...

You've used these materials to get a "10-10" 20 year
old slim tall model... who is nearly DOUBLE your height,
and all you want to know is how to hook up with the
other women who are checking you out when you're with
her?

You're too much.

Well, first of all, let me mention again that I don't
like the idea of being a "relationship wrecker", and
I don't recommend that guys do sneaky things.

If you and this girl have agreed to be in an exclusive
relationship, then forget what I'm about to say....
lol...

But if you're just casually dating, then here's an
idea for you:

When you're out with this girl, walk away from her
once in awhile. If the two of you are talking to a
group, just say "I'll be right back" and leave.

My personal experience is that this alone shows a
"non-wuss" attitude that is attractive.

Then, while you're wandering around, stop and say
"hi" to the woman or women that were winking at you.

Talk for a minute, then say "I'm going to get back
to my guest" and then "Do you have a card?" Make sure
to get an email and good phone number, even if she
has to write them down.

Asking for a card is a great way to say "I'd like
to talk to you again", but have it come across in a
semi-professional manner that leaves her wondering
what is really up.

And I think that cards are perceived as less of a
threat by the current date than hand-written numbers/emails.

Think about it. You are a very, very bad man, by the
way.

...one more comment...

It's funny, because many of my friends who are really
amazing with women aren't at all what you'd consider
"attractive".

They're not handsome, not tall, not rich, and not
"sexy" in appearance.

In fact, I have at LEAST 4 or 5 friends who are between
about five foot two and five foot seven that are KILLER
with women. Some of them are balding and overweight
to boot.

My point is that they key to success with women is
KNOWING HOW THE PROCESS OF ATTRACTION WORKS, and having
the specific SKILLS it takes to succeed. Nothing more,
nothing less