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garnet4david2001
8th August 2006, 15:46
How To Start Conversations With Women


***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave-

What's up buddy? Once again you have done it. The
C & F routine works like a charm. I've been getting
your newsletters for a while now, and all of the
advice has been great. I've been meaning to get the
book, but I'm a poor-ass college student (any contributions
out there to my book fund?) ...I'll eventually pick
it up in a game of pool sharking or something...

Anyway...one success story here...

I went out with my friend a couple nights ago (easily
a 9), and I've known her since HS. When we got to
the club, I POURED ON the C & F. At one point in her
conversation, she told me she was out of smokes. Now,
instead of doing the "wussy" thing, which would be
to go buy her another pack, I said "There are plenty
of girls in here who will give me some" (That works
on so many levels). So, I left the table and went
up to five different girls and got two cigarettes
from each (one for now, one for the road). Nonetheless,
my friend was set aback by the whole thing, and said
that she didn't know I was such a ladies man. I said
something like "Just giving the public what it wants".
She started to get so competitive with me, that she
decided that she needed to get some random guy's number
(maybe for self confidence issues, whatever...). So,
while she was doing that, I decided to step it up a
notch. While she was taking the time to get one number,
I proceeded to get THREE numbers from three different
girls, using the C & F routine (hot damn, it works!).
She came back to me, and without saying anything,
showed me the number. I countered and showed my
three numbers. Nonetheless, at this point she was
so crazy jealous over me, that we ended the night
@ my place. sweet...

One last comment...

Dave, you talked about Triumph the Insult Comic
Dog in your one of your emails...and it got me to
thinking of different examples of C & F. I found
the PERFECT one the other day. Tom Cruise in the
movie Top Gun. If you haven't seen it in like 10
years like I had, rent it again...NO --- BUY IT!
It is the perfect example of what to do. He's cocky
and funny (obviously). Look at the scene in the bar
when he first meets the girl. Seemed like he "crashed
and burned" until he went into the ladies room and
approached the girl. Also, he is the master of ANTICIPATION.
How many times did he leave the girl hanging in
the movie? Like 5 times??? Excellent. It works.

Now, we may all not look like Tom Cruise or fly a
F-14 or whatever, but I guarantee you that if a lesser
looking man would be cast in that role, all the women
would be screaming in ecstasy the same way...since
the C&F is there.

Thanks Dave - take it easy bro.

D from CO


>>>MY COMMENTS:

NICE!

You have demonstrated an understanding of the PRINCIPLES
that are involved with this whole "psychology of
women and dating", and for that you get a gold star.

*

You like it?

This is what you call "all good all the time", and
it shows how you took the situation that was in front
of you, and used the resources around you to dial
up the sexual tension.

...Yes, I actually mention the bathroom scene in
Top Gun as an example of being Cocky and Funny. It's
an interesting scene, because to the uninitiated,
he comes across as not doing well. Of course, if
you understand the dynamics behind sexual attraction,
you understand that by keeping his and boldly going
where no man has gone before (into the lady's room
after her) he comes across very powerfully.

I think your quote of "Just giving the public what
it wants" might be one of my favorite's of all time.
I may well steal it and take credit for thinking it
up on my own, I like it so much. Would you accept
a small royalty on it for each use? Love it!



***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,

I must admit, I knew this stuff would work, but I
had no idea how well. I am a 37 yo divorced man,
a little unsure around hot women, always have been
funny, needed the cocky. I wasn't getting a lot of
attention until Saturday night. I was eating supper
at a very nice hotel bar, when a very classy, very
hot lady sat next to me. I was reading the paper
and she asked if she could see some of it. I looked
at her sort of reluctantly and said, "Well, I'm done
with the sports section, but you have to give it back."
Then I turned away and continued reading. She tried
twice to start a conversation, to which I responded
shortly. Then I turned on the C/F thing full bore!
Within 10 minutes she was touching my leg, and telling
me all about her life! She literally was eating off
of my plate! I asked her what I was going to get
in return for the food she ate, and she turned beet
red. I told her she couldn't back away, she had already
eaten it! To wrap up, we went to listen to some live
music, she asked me what I wanted to do, I told her,
and we spent the rest of the night, at her place,
doing those very things! Dave, she was WAY out of my
league, I mean a high priestess in the shrine of
fine! This was a night for the archives, and I have
to give you credit!

TW in NC


>>>MY COMMENTS:

A HIGH PREISTESS IN THE SHRINE OF FINE!

Take me to church, my man and preach me the gospel.

You have provided a PERFECT TEXTBOOK (my textbook,
of course) example of how to use Cocky and Funny
with a woman you've just met.

Here are a couple of high points for me:

1. When she first sat down, you basically paid no
attention to her at all, and in fact, you gave her
a little bit of a hard time by only giving her a
little of your paper and telling her that you want
it back. This is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what every
other guy she meets does, and I'm sure that it set
you apart instantly as a man who ISN'T NEEDY.

2. Only after she tried to make casual conversation
TWICE with you did you proceed. This creates a great
position for you, because she's now subtly pursuing
you, and if she starts being sassy about you teasing
her, you can always say "Hey, I was just sitting here
minding my own business and you keep trying to talk
to me" in a sarcastic tone. The magic of a line like
this, by the way, is that it's MOSTLY TRUE, and it's
also VERY FUNNY.

3. Only after she "succeeded in getting you to talk
to her" did you progress into the Cocky and Funny...
and it was a situation that lends itself to "conversation".
Nice.

4. You made a nice yet subtle move when you asked
her what you were going to get in return for the
food she ate... This works so well because she obviously
ate a small amount off of your plate, so it's ridiculous
to assume that she actually owes you anything. The
comment is powerful because it if FUNNY as well as
SUGGESTIVE.

You're another hero of mine. I'm going to get a shirt
made with a picture of you on it, if that's OK.



***QUESTION FROM A WOMAN***

Hi Dave,

Since you always seem to be tickled pink about getting
responses from women I thought I'd drop you a line.
I've gotta confess that I have been reading your
mailbag-emails for about a month now and think most
of your "research" is really quite amazing. You've
nailed a lot of stuff and I've really enjoyed reading
about it.

Some of it I read and to think, to quote someone else,
"DAMN, that's what he was trying to do." It cracks
me up to know what guys are up to, it's so cute to
know that they're trying. Still other parts of it
I read and wonder how some people cannot grasp or
understand the concepts... maybe some of it comes
naturally to me. I mean, who doesn't like to be teased,
flirted with and stimulated? The c&f routine works
just as well for me as guys I think because so many
guys (at least the ones I know) expect women to be
flattered and taken by surprise when they spring the
c&f routine on them. When I started countering them
with my own version, we would end up having a blast.
We would end up talking for hours, laughing and discussing
anything and everything under the sun - it was exciting,
intelligent, and just plain fun talk. I remember
one newsletter where you said your techniques are
for "picking girls up"... but you didn't specialize
in longer lasting relationships. I started thinking...
maybe when you can BOTH create the kind of attraction
you're teaching, the result is not just a couple dates
but a great (longer lasting) relationship. The guy
c&f routine seems incredibly one-sided to me... yes
it gets you guys hot dates and sex and whatever you're
looking for lol, but don't you eventually get bored
with women simply laughing at your jokes without being
able to keep up the banter themselves? I know I would.
I was just curious what you or other guys had to say
about this. Meanwhile, keep up the great "counseling"...
a lot of guys I know have benefited from your advice
and have become a lot more fun to hang out with! You
rock ;)

A fan, A.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Oh, it's humbling to me when a smart person writes
in and says something better than I could say it...
ESPECIALLY when it's from a woman who is sharp, articulate,
and obviously loves my stuff.

The thing that really struck me about your email here
is that you said "It cracks me up to know what guys
are up to, it's so cute to know that they're trying."

You totally get what's going on, and in fact, you
see this situation for what it is... guys learning
how to be more attractive to women so that women will
actually feel more attracted to them. And it is charming
in its own way.

And you understand how much more FUN it is to be around
a guy who:

1) Isn't a totally WUSSY.

2) Has a sense of humor.

3) Knows how to keep things interesting by being
unpredictable, charming, and slightly too big for
his britches.

And you've pointed out something that's been hard
for me to put into words, but now I have it...

If a woman isn't sharp enough, funny enough, or together
enough emotionally to deal with a man who's being
Cocky and Funny, then she's probably not going to
be very interesting in a long term relationship either.

My personal experience is that women who CAN'T sense
what's really going on or who get upset and take
things too personally often have major issues and
can't relate very well at more intimate levels either.

And why would you want to be with a woman who can't
keep up with you for the LONG term?

Thanks for the great email.

..and how many times do I have to say this... if you're
a sharp, attractive woman you MUST SEND PICTURES WITH
YOUR EMAILS TO ME... One each in casual, formal, and
bathing attire, from three main angles, plus profile
shots.

Also include daytime phone number as well as email
address. Nice.


***QUESTION FROM A WOMAN***

Aloha David,

Okay i am a women and well i love receiving your
news letter. It not only helps men but it helps women
too. See i am 21 and i never went to college instead
i started a business and it is very successful on
this little lava rock i live on. I own a car shop
and a drag strip. Weird isn't it women doin that
sort of thing. Well anyway i have always been a tom
boy. My guy friends call me a man in womens body.
The weird thing is God gave me to a womanly body.
Try like a 36-24-36... Well anyway in high school
i dressed like a complete boy i never wore a dress
unless it was prom. I never wore make up unless i
had to do a show or if it was prom. I was on my high
school football team. Well now i dress more womanly
i still dont wear make up. But i still hang out with
yuh know the boys. Now i would say that 90% of my
friends are guys. Because i love sports, i am not
emotional, i dont cry, i love to camp, and well i
drink beer and i love it. Well all my guy friends
have suddenly gone mushy on me and i didn't think
of it as anything in the beginning when they would
ask me to go out to dinner. But now most of them are
like how can i say this... in love with me... most
of them have told me that they love me and i am like
the dream girl... blah blah... but now my question
is... I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO?????... i want them as
my frens not as lovers... i am not ready for that...
they know i have been engaged before and that he hurt
me really bad. But is there anyway i can let them
down nicely without hurting our friendship... because
i love them just in a brotherly way... Thanks man...

L, Hawaii


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Yes, I have a PERFECT idea. I think that you need
to tell them that you are already involved with a
guy, and that he's very charming and lives in California.

I will agree, as part of this arrangement, to have
you fly me to Hawaii quarterly to "pose" as your
boyfriend and demonstrate that you are, in fact,
involved.

I will stay for one week, be seen with you at all
the Island Hot Spots, and allow you to purchase dinner
and entertainment for us (plus pay me a small, nominal
fee for my "services").

I don't usually like to get involved with women who
are 21 and have athletic "womanly 36-24-36" bodies,
but in your case I will make an exception this ONE
TIME... because you are in such a time of need.

...OK, the reason that I've included your email is
because...

IT ROCKS!

...Oh, and because I wanted to point something out
about how guys behave, and how women see it.

Most women intuitively know that every single one
of their guy "friends" would jump in the sack with
3 second's notice.

In fact, most attractive women believe that EVERY
GUY THAT EVEN TALKS TO THEM WANTS THEM, and that
any guy who they've even SPOKEN WITH would get in
bed with them if the opportunity was there.

"Cool" women like yourself, who have several cool
guy friend and are successful, independent, and attractive
have so much opportunity that it ACTUALLY GOES FROM
BEING FLATTERING TO BEING OUTRIGHT ANNOYING.

For you there really isn't an easy answer. You're
just going to either have to invite me out there
to pose as your man or learn how to cope with "guy
friend puppydogitis" (You should invite me, it would
be so much easier).

But for any guy who doesn't realize this, it's a big
lesson.

Remember that most women think you want them. So don't
act like you want them at the very beginning. Lean
back, give her space, and use the techniques you're
learning from me to amplify the attraction and tension,
so she is OVERCOME with the emotions that lead to
you and her getting together.

Don't be another "guy friend" who's "fallen for her".


***QUESTION***

Hey Dave,

Success story:

I spend alot of time at a specific beach bar, somewhere
in the mediterranean, and I've had very satisfying
results following this: I bust on the waitresses
and attractive female bar tenders, but never ask
for their info. I keep going hot/cold on them. Example:
I promise (jokingly) that I will never forget her
all my life if she fixes me the PERFECT drink, and,
of course the drink is never good enough and forget
them at once. Then when they say hi, I go: Who are
you, anyway? can't a man have a peaceful moment sitting
at the bar without a girl coming over...etc. So, having
this C&f interaction with the staff, REALLY helps when
I talk to other girls I meet on the spot, who sense t
hat the staff is already attracted, and try harder
for my attention. This has worked fine.

Question: (well more than one)

1. Sometimes girls seem to get genuinly upset when
I am aloof and indifferent. They talk sourly when
I (finally) address them, and ask "what do you want
from me?"

2. What about calling her the day after sex? They
also seem totally pissed off if I don't call/talk/SMS
them the day after. they seem particularly sensitive
about that. Any comments?

3. I know that you prefer email to direct phonecalls.
Well, not many people have email over here. Every
body has mobile phones though. Does SMS do the same
as email? I personally have not concluded which works
better, phonecall (to a mobile phone) or SMS

Any comments on the above would be GREATLY appreciated.

MC

>>>MY COMMENTS:

I love your examples of Cocky and Funny. Very nice.

To answer your questions...

Yes, in the real world, sometimes a woman will get
upset because you're indifferent, or because you make
fun and bust on her... it happens.

It's sooo hard for men to see that some women just
aren't going to be right for them, and that some women
aren't fun or interesting.

Just because a woman is attractive doesn't mean that
she's also sweet, kind, loving, stable, etc.

Men tend to instantly assume that attractive women
are more honest, more friendly, more trustworthy,
etc. JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE ATTRACTIVE.

And it just isn't so. You will have to strike your
own personal balance in regards to how you act towards
women, and you'll have to learn for yourself which
signs to watch out for.

I personally have no time for a woman who can't deal
with a little teasing, or who gets upset because she's
not the center of attention and being courted like
a princess.

I laugh if a woman gets upset a one of my jokes...
IT'S VERY FUNNY! I just say "lighten up, a bad attitude
isn't attractive".

As for your other two questions, I'm just not sure.
Test.

I will say that if you don't talk to a woman the day
or so after sex (whether she calls you or you call
her) she'll usually assume that you aren't interested
in anything more, and will probably have a higher
chance of resenting you if you call again later...
because she's more likely in this situation to feel
like a "booty call".



***QUESTION***

Dear David,

I really congratulate you on the job you are doing
with your write ups. I meet a girl in a bus one night,
I approached her but our discussion was little, i
was able to get her email address, for the next 7
months we've been communicating through the internet.
Right now she's inviting me for a date to meet with
her again. Pls kindly tell me how to make her like me

Thanks and regards,

P...from Nigeria


>>>MY COMMENTS:

WHOA, 7 months?

I guess you've taken the "play hard to get" thing
to a whole new level.

The way to make a woman like you is to:

1) Not act like all the other average guys out there.

2) Make her laugh.

3) Be unpredictable, challenging, and mysterious.

...of course there are more ingredients, but use
these for your next meeting.

Don't act nervous or uncomfortable. Treat her like
you've know her all your life... almost like she's
your bratty little sister.

Tease her and make her laugh. Have fun.

Don't be PREDICTABLE. Do things that surprise her.
Say things that keep her wanting to hear more. Tell
interesting stories, and don't answer her questions
directly... instead, make her work for the answers.

And enjoy yourself... you sure have waited long enough.



***QUESTION***

Hi, Dave. To start off - your book and method rock.
If someone does not believe this - tell them to go
and ask attractive women. I have a few questions for
about picking up women online. Let's say a man is
talking to a woman on icq or msn Instant messenger
(a lot more women are using instant messaging systems
than dating sites). He's using C&F (otherwise she
probably would not talk to him). When is it the right
time to ask for the phone number? (I remember you
said in one of your newsletters that the faster the
better). Because even those you are being C&F, women
are still afraid of freaks (and they should be). So
what would you suggest - 1st conversation, maybe second,
or should I wait for a week (let's assume she is laughing
all the time)? Also it is not hard to come up with
conversation starters - how would you suggest I should
start a conversation? (I'm normally asking some interesting
controversial questions, but I could use your advice).

All men and women should thank you for the job you
do!


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Interesting, controversial question are great way
to start conversations online with women. It's also
fun to poke fun at their profiles when opening.

Your other question, about how to get them to talk
to you on the phone, is the interesting one.

The answer is actually pretty simple. Don't wait very
long to get on the phone.

Just like most guys are afraid to ask women for their
phone numbers in person, most guys online are too
reluctant to take steps to get a woman on the telephone
because they're afraid of getting rejected and losing
their chances for good.

If a woman is having fun chatting with you, just
say "OK, it's time for me to go, but let's talk
later like normal people do on the phone... I want
to see if you can keep this up live in person." etc.

Women will often say "I don't talk to people I meet
on the internet". You want to get this as soon as
possible, because a lot of women won't talk to you
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.

It's better to find out sooner than later.

And if she's interested, but not ready for a phone
conversation she'll probably say "Let's talk online
some more first", etc.

Get her on the phone sooner rather than later, or
you'll wind up wasting a lot of time chatting, and
little time progressing.

I'd also like to mention that the internet is a great
place to PRACTICE talking to women. You don't have
to meet women that you chat with online... it can
just be a fun way to meet new people and practice
your humor and conversation skills.


***QUESTION***

Hey Dave !

I`ve met a women that I really adore. She`s one heck
of smart, sweet-looking , GREAT chiq ... We met in
a restaurant and I managed to secure her e-mail.

We have been e-mailing each another for about 4 months
now. The problem is that we keep talking about movies,
our holidays and... bla bla.

I tried asking her phone number casually in the mail
but she just bluntly ignored. We do still mail each
another but nothing really personal that we talk about.

So Dave , what should I do ? How can I get her started
on talking about us...or perhaps to go out for a
coffee/movie ("date") with this chiq... I sincerely
am desperate for her... But ( I`m still on your prescription
of NOT being a WHUSS )...

Please help, Dave !

rgds,

M.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Houston, I think we have problem.

"WHUSS"?

Don't make me try to pronounce that word...

I have bad news for you:

1. You don't know how to even spell the word "Wuss",
which is short for WUSSY.

2. You are ACTING like this thing that you cannot
spell.

Look, you couldn't have made yourself into more of
a "friend" (as in "I only like you as a") if you
tried.

I was about to start telling you want to do next time
you get a woman's email address, but then I realized
that it would probably take me 100 pages just to get
the basics out on paper...

And then I had an Ah-Ha!

"THIS GUY NEEDS TO READ MY BOOK". Duh.

OK, you need to go to:

http://www.DoubleYourDatingSystem.com/e/eBook/

...as soon as possible and download it. Unless, that
is, you enjoy investing 4 MONTHS in email relationships
that aren't going anywhere.

I know, it's not good news, but you've put about 4
months worth of nails in the coffin, and even I can't
help you.

Best thing is to learn what to do next time, and make
sure you learn how to cure your acute case of WUSS-BAG-ALYSIS.



***QUESTION***

David,

I have downloaded your book and it reads great, but
it looks to me like your techniques only works with
guys who are of average or better looks. Don't get
me wrong I don't have terrible scars or weigh 400lbs,
but I have faced the fact that I'm not what women find
good looking. I've tried buying nice clothes and improving
my looks as much as I can, but it doesn't seem to help.
What's worse, the fact that nothing has helped has
only decreased my self confidence.

It seems to me that a cocky attitude would come off
as stupid from a guy like me. How can your techniques
work for guys who are below average in looks and have
self-confidence in the gutter?

D in Cincy


>>>MY COMMENTS:

I have no idea where you got the impression that my
techniques only work for guys who are "of average
or better looks". Have you read these mailbags for
very long?

I've had guys who are old, bald, weigh 400 pounds,
and every other "less than average" thing you can
think of write in to tell their success stories.

Your problem is your attitude and the fact that you
let your emotions control your mind.

Just because a woman doesn't respond to you, or getting
new clothes doesn't magically make you successful
is no reason to get bummed out.

Here's my personal attitude:

I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES, I'M GOING TO GET THIS
THING FIGURED OUT.

When I started out learning how to meet women, I didn't
have the benefit of the knowledge that I have now.

I had to figure most of this stuff out from scratch.
It took me a few YEARS before I was able to finally
say "OK, I know how to meet women."

Now, I think that with the benefit of the materials
I've put together, these newsletters, etc. most guys
can shave a LOT of time off their success curve, and
can start having SOME level of success almost immediately.

Have you gotten online and chatted with women?

Have you taken up a hobby where there are naturally
more women than men involved?

Have you put yourself in situations that lead to you
automatically meeting women?

And by the way, a "cocky" attitude isn't what you
want...

You need a Cocky and FUNNY attitude. You need to make
women LAUGH. If you can make women laugh, you're most
of the way home.

Don't accept less than you want out of life. Don't
do it.

And don't let your emotions permanently change your
outlook or stop you from taking action in the future.


***QUESTION***

Hey Dave,
First off, I wish I could thank you in person for
all the things I've learned from you. You truly are
the master and you've shown me the light of my wussy-ways.
I've had relative success, being that I've only recently
started using your techniques and am still learning;
I think I'm getting better at least. But my problem
lies in the fact that I'm a naturally, overly silent
person. While I don't have any problem approaching
a woman, talking to them, and being C&F, I find a lot
of holes in my conversation that no matter how well
thought out or brief my conversation is, cut in just
enough to break things down badly. This has been
a problem I've been working with for along time and
it's not looking to bright that I'll come out the other
end of the tunnel any time soon. I was hoping you
could explain how to use body language and general
actions other than speech, to increase the attraction
and hopefully help with some of the pauses. You truly
are the god of this and take pity on this young apprentice.

Thanks again,
S.D.
virginia



>>>MY COMMENTS:

No problem.

Just make sure that when there is a silence in the
conversation that you DON'T ACT WEIRD ABOUT IT.

In fact, it can be great to let there be a silence
every once in awhile. When you act totally cool and
calm, it puts pressure on her to keep things going.

As for body language, you can just turn away and lean
back for a few moments. As long as you're not acting
nervous, this can create a powerful and magnetic situation.



***SUCCESS STORY***

Sorry it's so long! Lot to tell!

Dave,

Wanted to share a success story with everyone! Hey,
a man has to brag! (Now I can thanks to your techniques!).
Went away for a golfing weekend with a mate and met
a model who has appeared in magazines. A definite
10 surrounded by 7's. There must have been 10 other
guys at the resort vying for her attention, and guess
who got her?

Why? A number of reasons, and all from your book,
and mailbag. I came across as a guy who wanted nothing
else from her other than friendship, even telling
her I was *** (She knew otherwise because of my other
C&F Comments). I would walk away whenever I wanted,
even with the competition hanging around her like
flies. (It helped that I spoke to everyone, and everyone
got to know me, so she was no one special!)

Can you believe she started making the moves? And
then I let the C&F out, busting her on all her insecurities.
I got so many looks of disbelief from those standing
around. They couldn't believe I could say what I
did! Some even tried to counter me by using wuss
comments. Example, she dyes her hair deep red. I
just asked how she manages to die her roots brown
(Not that I could see them). Her jaw dropped, she
hit me, and some wuss pipes up, "Don't worry, I think
your hair is beautiful". My reply, "Well some people
will settle for second best!". Another Punch (and
laugh!)

The absolute winner came when we were watching a rugby
match on TV in the lounge. She was sitting with
her parents, so I pulled up a chair along side them,
and as I sat down I immediately jumped up, and said,
"Hey, watch the hands!" Giving her a disapproving
look! Of course she denied everything, her parents
laughed (They loved me because of my attitude, and
the fact I wasn't one of the normal wussy men she
brought home.)

She still doesn't know my age, thinks I make blow-up
dolls for a living, but wants to see me again. DESPERATELY.
We're seeing each other this weekend again, and she
was the one who asked! Incredible!

One comment, though! I often read guys asking for
what to say in certain situations. I was even going
to suggest you put that in your next book. But over
the last couple of months I've realized that the C&F
routine has to be spontaneous. These guys are asking
for pickup lines, and that's not what it's about!
Guys, use the examples to get the concept of C&F,
not the lines! The examples should be used for the
attitude, if you remember the lines, they're going
to sound canned!

Thanks Dave! Seems like I'm the only one in my country
with this info!
;-)

GC (South Africa)


>>>MY COMMENTS:

Oh, you just gotta love asking a model how she "manages
to dye the roots of her hair" a different color.
That's a classic!

Great story, and keep me up to date about what happens.


***SUCCESS STORY***

Hi David

I'm a UK reader of your book and emails and was initially
skeptical of whether they would work in the UK, since
the dating rules are a little different from the
US and other parts of the world - trust me I know -
I've been in bars in NY where a smart watch, a decent
suit and educated conversation (plus a bar bill the
size of the gross national debt of Peru) will get
you laid in about 20 minutes. In San Fancisco it
was even easier, a British accent and basic motor
neuron functioning seemed to work. Being straight
probably didn't hurt either.

Women in North America seem to have no problem approaching
guys in a bar. However in the UK it's a different
story. Men are expected to make the first move all
the time and take the risks. I have always been telling
my friends that they never actually pull a woman,
she allows herself to be pulled by you, i.e., you
need to look for the "buy signals" from her before
going in to close the deal, and by simply doing that
you increase your success rate.

The question has always been: "How do you encourage
those buy signals?"

David, buddy, you have shown us the light. The jigsaw
is complete. and You are right in your book that
some men just seem to know this intuitively - or
they may just be a@#holes - but the effect is much
the same. Be cocky and funny, laugh them into bed,
confuse them, and above all don't worry about it -
we call this the Bastard Magnet in the UK. Every girl
loves a bastard.

So how does it work in un the UK in practice? - well
like a charm: my current favorite is this (apologies
if this seems verbose, but I talk quickly and as a
lawyer am often expected to make long statements like
this, but it's important to make it sound like a parody
of a lecture or a submission - your whole thing about
the importance of being in character is spot on):

Me: If we're walking I pull her up and say, "And
so we come to the part of the evening where according
to the rules of dating I am obliged to entice
you back to my place for sex. Now I also fully
understand that according to the rules of dating,
you are obliged to refuse on the grounds of chastity
and the usual requirements of self-respect and
esteem. However, importantly, I also realise
that you will be EXPECTING me to ask you back,
and in fact, if I don't, you will experience
feelings of inadequacy and question your attractiveness.
So why don't we take it as read that this interchange
has taken place, honour has been satisfied and
we can get on with the evening?
Her: "Absolutely right..."
Me: "Good..."
Her: "...OK then, let's go back to your place"

Looking back on it, I am surprised, but all the elements
are there - Cocky (you expect me to ask you back),
funny (conflict between her feelings of attractiveness
and self-esteem), care-less attitude (take it as
read and get on with the evening), character (I'm talking
as if I'm giving a lecture or making an argument
in court), and taking charge. Dude, the samurai weren't
the best because they had the best technique, they
were the best because they had no fear of death -
thanks for taking the fear out of failure.

When you come to London, email me and we'll grab a
beer.

Cheers

JL


>>>MY COMMENTS:

These are some of the best examples of how to be
Cocky and Funny in different situations that I've
ever seen.

This is amazing... I love it.

It's charming, funny, and incredible. Awesome.


***QUESTION***

hi david,

i have been hard on myself for a few days now from
not making the move to kiss this girl who i have
loved for so long. she gave me the signal, but i
didn't follow through. i panicked. now i worry she
won't ever give me another chance considering this
ha happened before when i don't make the move.
she knows i love her a great deal. i even called
and left a message the next day to see if she wanted
to see a movie with me. she didn't reply back. do
you think i should be concerned or do you think i'll
get another chance to be her boyfriend? and to help
me, what can i do to not hesitate the next time
around when i feel she wants to be kissed?

l.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

This is a problem.

If a woman knows that it's time for you to kiss her,
and you DON'T DO IT because you're too nervous, you'll
probably not get another chance at it.

The way to not hesitate next time is to use "The Kiss
Test", as described on my website, in my book, in
my CD audio series, in my seminar, and in every frickin'
thing I teach ever.

Dude, go download a copy of my book online. It's just
not worth screwing up these kinds of opportunities
just because you don't know what to do.

It's important that you learn how to move forward
in ALL of the different situations you'll find yourself
in with women... not just kissing them.


***QUESTION***

Dave,

You are the man! I have been using your techniques
and I am definitely seeing results. But, I have
a problem with you. You see, I have written at least
twice before, but you have never printed my stuff!
I mean, what, are my stories not successful enough?
Please include this as soon as possible. OK, what
has worked for me? Well, one time I was at the mall,
this girl didn't have her shoes on. So I say, "Isn't
it store policy to be wearing shoes while you're working?
I mean, what the hell's wrong with this picture?" So
I was teasing her and all that good stuff, and I got
her phone number. I work in a liquor store, and I
thought of giving girls fake surveys to fill out.
So one time, this hottie asks for a 30 pk. beer. I
get it for her. Then she leaves. I catch up with
her at the parking lot, and I say, "Hey, I didn't get
to give this to you while you were inside. I was just
wondering if you wanted to take a quick survey."
She says sure. So I give her the paper. It looks like
this:

(Company name) Survey

NAME

PHONE NUMBER

E-MAIL (OPTIONAL)

AGE

She starts laughing. She says, "This isn't real!"
I say, "Of course it is. I want to personally make
sure that your next experience here will be even
better." She's laughing this whole time and accuses
me again of the survey being fake. I say, "OK, fine,
but you have to give me points for being creative."
She asks me who's it for, and I say it's for me.
She starts filling it out. She's reading it and she
says, "E-mail, optional, that's cute." I say, "I
know." So we chitchat for a little, and I go back
to the store, I turn around and I say, "You remember
my name, right?" She says my name and I say, "Good
job."...

[I had to edit this one, because it was just too long
here]

...So I've had problems where I'll call the girl,
and I won't reach her. I'll leave my name and number
either with the machine or with the person who picked
up the phone. But the problem is, they don't call
back sometimes. Should I call again? Should I just
say Next!? And I don't know if I should leave a cocky
and funny message on the machine and what I should
say, and I'm a litte wary because what if she lives
with other people, like parents or something?...

S.G. from Jersey


>>>MY COMMENTS:

This is quite possibly the greatest idea I've heard
this year for getting a woman's name, number, and
email.

"I was wondering if you'd like to take a quick survey"
LOL!

To answer your questions:

STOP CALLING FIRST ON THE PHONE... EMAIL FIRST INSTEAD.

Women will answer your emails probably TWICE as often
as they'll return calls, so start there.

Then get on the phone to set up the plans in a few
minutes and get off. Stop playing the phone game!



***SUCCESS STORY***

Dave,

I can't thank you enough. Your book has taught me
so much, and given me so much confidence in life
and especially in the women department. I DIDN'T
HAVE A CLUE. Now..I have always been good at attracting
girls early on, but for some reason I could never
keep one for more than a couple of weeks. It sucked.
My confidence level went way down and i could never
figure out what the deal was.

Well I finally decided it was time to change things
so i got on the net and eventually stumbled on to
your newsletter, and about a month later i bought
your book.. Complete turnaround. Now I know what
was wrong. I had a bad case of WUSSYNITIS. Every
time I got together with a girl i turned into a complete
wuss. Now I have to fight 'em off with a stick. I
have so much fun bustin' their balls and they LOVE
ME FOR IT. And well..

Thanks for giving me a clue.

S. from TX.


>>>MY COMMENTS:

You're not alone. Men all over the world are victims
of the same psychological disorder... the one you
call:

WUSSYNITIS

Now, I might suggest that we try to find a name that's
a little more catch for the psychology books, but
hey... it's a good start.

One of the problems with what I'll call "The Inner
Wuss" is that it's HARD TO GET RID OF for most guys.

It's way too easy to slip back into Wuss Mode with
a woman, and screw things up INSTANTLY.

Fortunately THERE IS A WAY to get rid of it.

And that way is my Advanced Dating Techniques CD/DVD
program.

You can't get rid of your Inner Wuss by hoping it
will go away... and you can't get rid of it by whining.

You must CONSCIOUSLY and ACTIVELY do the right things
in the right order if you want to get rid of it.

But once you do, it's almost magical what starts
happening.

All of a sudden, things start to make sense.

You see how women respond to Wussbags... and you
understand WHY they do it.

You also begin to lose your "Woman Repellant Smell"
when you stop being a Wuss. This causes all manner
of good things to start happening to you.

Inside my Advanced Series, I'm going to show you several
"Inner Game" methods to use to get rid of your Inner
Wuss, and keep it gone forever.

Oh, and you'll also learn literally HUNDREDS of the
most effective and rejection-free ways to approach
women, start conversations, meet women online, and
take things to a "physical level"... from me and my
special guests.