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eoneon
21st March 2008, 03:54
Tea Vui Huang's DNG Phone Camera
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Quote from the author's webpage:

"4 years in the waiting, Digital Negative (DNG) - first introduced by Adobe in 2004 as a universal format for the RAW image files generated by digital cameras - has finally arrived on the mobile phone!

Previously, cameras that provide direct DNG support are only available on high-end models from camera manufacturers like Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax (K10D), Ricoh, and Samsung. But now, with Tea Vui Huang's free DNG Phone Camera, you can capture photos directly to the DNG RAW image format from your humble Nokia camera phone.

The DNG images will be saved to the "Images" folder of the microSD card using the default Nokia image file naming format. DNG is supported by Adobe Photoshop CS2, Photoshop CS, Photoshop Elements 3.0/4.0 and DNG Converter software. DNG raw files must first be processed before it can be used to generate a final JPEG or TIFF image.

DNG Phone Camera is designed for Nokia phones minimally supporting CLDC 1.0, MIDP 2.0, JSR 135 (Mobile Media) and JSR 75. This product includes DNG technology under license by Adobe Systems Incorporated."

What is RAW?

A raw image file (sometimes written RAW image file[1]) contains minimally processed data from the image sensor of a digital camera or image scanner. Raw files are so named because they are not yet processed and ready to be used with a bitmap graphics editor or printed.

In short words, a RAW image is the result of the first impression the light sets on the camera's sensor, without altering it in any way, so you can adjust all the variables freely (color, light, saturation, contrast, noise, sharpness etc).

More abour RAW here (Wikipedia) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).

Note that you woun't see any JPEG or JPG file on your memory card, but a DNG one, so before using the RAW image, you must "develop" it, with the help of some imaging software, like Adobe Photoshop and ACDSee, and after that save it in JPG format.

This is one of the greatest imaging applications ever created, but unfortunately it uses a 640x480 resolution.

Below are the two shots taken with Nokia N82, the first one is using the phone's camera at full 5 Mp resolution with flash, and the other using Tea Vui Huang's DNG Phone Camera, with artificial light. Note the difference.

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connecting people
21st March 2008, 04:53
Cool app! Thanks..rep added!

nuox
21st March 2008, 05:05
Great apps,must try on my n73.
Rep++

lainlain2005
21st March 2008, 05:22
Good app! Thanks.

subrata
21st March 2008, 07:36
awesome mate. +rep for you.

opicks
21st March 2008, 07:57
Fantastic share buddy.. KARMA button clicked to you

blueron
21st March 2008, 08:02
Thanks for this app - but it takes raw images at VGA [640*480].

ady2
21st March 2008, 09:17
Promising, but... It takes pictures at 640x480, with lots of artifacts. The image format is DNG, but I don't think it is a real raw image; a raw image MUST be at exactly the same resolution of camera sensor.

Anyhow, rep added for your contribution.

-=[Hunter]=-
21st March 2008, 09:37
cool app mate.thanx.rep added++

otasno
21st March 2008, 09:39
very nice application. thanx

swankyleo
21st March 2008, 09:52
Thanks for this nice share mate. Will sure come in handy some day ;)

rep added for u

vishnu777
21st March 2008, 10:01
a good app...thanks!!!

herrfox
21st March 2008, 10:59
Thank you for to share this application!at soon.

njinkz
21st March 2008, 11:39
do not know how to use this app

ady2
21st March 2008, 11:49
1. Run application
2 open lens cover (depending on phone model)
3 close native camera application (if running)
4 to take a picture, press ok button (center od D-pad or joistick or equivalent)
the picture is now on \images folder

fuuma
21st March 2008, 12:26
very cool apps thanks

AliCaN
21st March 2008, 14:54
thanks for the app man..i have a question..
doesnt raw image allocate a lot of memory?

olti
21st March 2008, 16:17
Promising, but... It takes pictures at 640x480, with lots of artifacts. The image format is DNG, but I don't think it is a real raw image; a raw image MUST be at exactly the same resolution of camera sensor.


Yes, you are right. This app takes only pictures at 640x480 resolution. In Photoshop usually when opening a RAW or DNG format you can increase the resolution more then actual picture resolution, while with this pictures you can't do nothing.

Noting the difference between the pictures taken with this app and the pictures taken with the built-in camera app in N95, this app is a crapp for the moment.
Nothing beats up the 5 MP picture taken with the Carl Zeiss lens.

Good post by the way.

Regards,
Olti

prakash_tiwari2004
21st March 2008, 17:55
Thanks man very good application i hope next update will make images in high resolution :)

aZa
21st March 2008, 19:10
questionable app! I dont like the results

eoneon
22nd March 2008, 01:43
Thanks man very good application i hope next update will make images in high resolution :)

Welcome. I see people call it crap and complain about the low resolution. I see the first app that give us access to the camera's sensor, which is a big step ahead in mobile imaging. I'm sure that there will be other versions or apps which will have better performances, but for the moment it's nice to know that it's possible.

By the way, below there two pictures taken at the same resolution (640x480 px) using Nokia N82.
The first one is a shot at 0.3 Mp with flash (640x480 px, to leave out any comments regarding the 5Mpx camera bla bla), with levels edited in Adobe Photoshop. Highly not recommended, if you still wanna see anything after :p.
The second one is edited in RAW, no flash used (temperature, tint, exposure, vibrance, noise reduction, masking, saturation etc etc). Again, please note the difference, and that those two were shot during night-time, with artificial light.

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kozlowski
22nd March 2008, 02:33
Welcome. I see people call it crap and complain about the low resolution. I see the first app that give us access to the camera's sensor, which is a big step ahead in mobile imaging. I'm sure that there will be other versions or apps which will have better performances, but for the moment it's nice to know that it's possible.

You're right. This is low-level system hacking, it's not a documented feature or part of the Nokia API.

Good work.

DinA
22nd March 2008, 07:58
good effort,waiting for higher res...rep added :-)

olti
22nd March 2008, 14:14
.............
The first one is a shot at 0.3 Mp with flash (640x480 px, to leave out any comments regarding the 5Mpx camera bla bla), with levels edited in Adobe Photoshop. ...........

Are you saying that the picture taken with DNG app is good? Take a look at the sharpness and the focus please. This app is blind about recognizing objects.
I was waiting for a long time for an app of this kind, but not like this one. I hope this is only the first step.

This is a test picture I made with N95. No Photoshop retouch or any other editing.
Why using this app when you can use the full 5.04 MP camera with the wonderful Carl Zeiss lens. You just need to learn how to use the camera not bombing the phone with useless apps.

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sn4ky
22nd March 2008, 15:57
Good but pics are In VGA(640x480)... maybe someone can hack this app ? :P

Rockshox
22nd March 2008, 16:14
i compared two pict between DNG and stantard App JPG pict , but i can see that is JPG is better than DNG,, but isnt DNG better ?? i have a DSRL camera and i take a pict with RAW is better than JPG output .... is that the 640X480 problem ?

Niks_5in
22nd March 2008, 17:43
i get broken image on my nokia e61i,, do we have to install in phone memory or what

Stone-D
23rd March 2008, 02:45
Agreed. The builtin camera app is superb, provided you adjust the settings appropriately for the shot you want. Night time shots, on the other hand, just suck badger's bottoms, which is why I'm gonna buy a dedicated camera today.

Here's a pic I took in January of a dragonfly, in closeup mode, no flash. Cropped, to accomodate the forums upload restrictions.

leogoto
23rd March 2008, 05:01
It is so coo! application.
Tnx

BR, Leo

kok123
23rd March 2008, 07:03
What A Cool App.............
Image Cannot View At Gallery After Taking...

eoneon
23rd March 2008, 08:58
Image Cannot View At Gallery After Taking...

That's because Nokia is not built for RAW photography, so it doesn't recognize the file format. I'm sure that it will be available after some time on a N-Series device, but who knows when :)

eoneon
23rd March 2008, 09:16
Agreed. The builtin camera app is superb, provided you adjust the settings appropriately for the shot you want. Night time shots, on the other hand, just suck badger's bottoms, which is why I'm gonna buy a dedicated camera today.

Here's a pic I took in January of a dragonfly, in closeup mode, no flash. Cropped, to accomodate the forums upload restrictions.

Nice pictures, guys, but you can't understand the use of this application. Your comparison of a 5MPx resolution image with a 0.3Mpx one is by far not fair.
You are putting a highly developed tool after years of research by Nokia near a small and full of potential application made by someone who succeeded to port the most used format in digital photography business, to mobile devices. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before Nokia will release a RAW ready model.

When a full camera resolution with autofocus version or another application will be available, none of the JPG pictures will compare to RAW, unprocessed captures.
For better understanding, google the info or just check the Wikipedia link from the first post.

amarsidhu
23rd March 2008, 10:52
no great shakes.....

gauts_njoy
23rd March 2008, 11:37
impressive app...

gauts_njoy
23rd March 2008, 11:38
being a graphic designer... i exactly know the importance of a raw file... so this shud b really interesting

rovex
23rd March 2008, 12:06
Its a nice idea, but the output of this app completely sucks. Its a technical demonstration, not a useful application, not yet anyway.

4633
13th April 2008, 09:20
this is a great post...It may be a bit early but if it gets better...the thing you can produce....I think a lot of people assume too much....too soon....it's a great start...

ip2
20th April 2008, 14:00
nice app, guy!!!!!!

dazza7111
20th April 2008, 19:30
is it me? but i think top photo is better!

skv012a
14th November 2008, 06:53
So for now, Moto ZN5 wins in terms of using REAL raw format and 5mp camera.

2600
14th November 2008, 18:22
thanks....looks like a great app

clichon
15th November 2008, 05:32
Very nice application. thank you.

RiPPERD
15th November 2008, 16:22
this looks ok but the top picture looks better! looks much sharper and clearer!

gigamatze
15th November 2008, 19:15
Hi All,

I think it's not possible to get unprocessed sensor data out of an cell phones camera module. The sensor is "hardwired" with the imaging-processor which generates the jpegs.

I assume this app just tranforms the jpegs into DNG format.

:suicide:

Elshout
19th November 2008, 18:38
I cannot see any improvement to my pictures. I've got a Nikon DLSR and I can see much improvement between RAW and JPEG.
Of course you can change color balance etc. to the pictures shot with this program without loosing any quality but I think the quality of the picture won't get better.

kingwicked
20th November 2008, 14:32
cool application repp+ to you eoneon

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