View Full Version : Time to dream: Linux on Symbian (possible?)


riahc4
27th May 2008, 01:41
What do you think?

demolition22
27th May 2008, 02:19
with a Virtual Machine maybe!

riahc4
27th May 2008, 02:31
with a Virtual Machine maybe!
Im sure Linux can be ported to the ARM architecture....

bchliu
27th May 2008, 02:41
it will have to be virtualised somehow as linux goes all the way down into hardware layer (which is already occupied by the S60 Os).

interesting concept - better off that someone converts DOS over since theres more support for that than Linux by a long shot

enjuto
27th May 2008, 03:14
¿Linux on Symbian? The really cool thing will be linux instead of symbian.

Nokia 770 already uses linux.. and nokia acquired trolltech, so I think we will see phones like n-series or e-series with linux as SO in the future

funkyanu
27th May 2008, 05:19
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4oCOV5cgQOo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GGK4Fshs6YI

here are 2 vids showing linux running on sx1 phone which has originally symbian os...
qtopia is the name of the linux...
it's an open source platform for mobiles...


http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia

here is the website of the linux os...

pilo
27th May 2008, 06:36
yeah, linux on symbian, nice future!

riahc4
28th May 2008, 01:52
So this means what? Its possible?

Infiernox
28th May 2008, 06:59
that means that runs on siemens xd

incurs0R
28th May 2008, 14:01
why do people put youtube videos that cant be watched wtf just post the link :S

tipu
28th May 2008, 16:35
Is there any application development is Linux mobile OS like symbian?

ETHANiEL
29th May 2008, 00:49
this thread is useless... what's the point on running linux on a symbian phone? go get a moto1200 which has linux. or get the Ayix python linux shell thing which is more or less useless too...

odot
29th May 2008, 03:49
only a linux and symbian virtuoso can do that .. GODBLESS IPMARTIAN .... :D

jarbamare
29th May 2008, 13:22
What a stupid and useless thread.
Who in gods name need Linux on Nokia smart phones? Who need OS without 3rd party apps??? Who for example need Apple IPhone(so called smart phone) except MAC fanatics and reach kids???

We have Symbian S60 platform with thousands of the 3rd party apps for every purpose, and that is a worth operating system for one cell phone. 3rd party applications support is something what represent value of any operating system in the world, not the name of the device or the OS!

If somebody needs smart phone based on the Linux OS just go and by some Motorola phones like @ETHANiEL already says, and cry for the 3rd party applications or advanced smartphone functions.

This topic is not "time to dream" good dreams, but time to have nightmares.:suicide:

sogniator
29th May 2008, 17:37
better both s60 and linux on one device i expected
i prefer dual-boot

ETHANiEL
29th May 2008, 20:04
better both s60 and linux on one device i expected

what's the point?

Infiernox
30th May 2008, 01:15
but nokia said that was going to use Linux in their next cell (although I'm not sure if will replace symbian)

funkyanu
30th May 2008, 11:16
the purpose of this thread is to tel everyone that it is possible to use symbian and linux on same phone.. through boot loader.. same as pc...

jarbamare
30th May 2008, 21:14
the purpose of this thread is to tel everyone that it is possible to use symbian and linux on same phone.. through boot loader.. same as pc...
What is the point?
Will you install some Linux 3rd party application on you mobile than? Or will you write Linux OS Mobile applications and use it in your phone???

We have attempt to port Basic OS from Commodore 64 on S60 phones, ... or even Microsoft DOS on S60v2 phones ... Microsoft Windows Mobile through .NET Compact Framework .. and?!? Someone use Basic C64 programs in brand new Nokia N95?
What's the point than to have multi OS environment on S60v3 phones without 3rd party apps for this 'slave OS'?!? Just curious?

enjuto
31st May 2008, 00:21
What is the point?
Will you install some Linux 3rd party application on you mobile than? Or will you write Linux OS Mobile applications and use it in your phone???

We have attempt to port Basic OS from Commodore 64 on S60 phones, ... or even Microsoft DOS on S60v2 phones ... Microsoft Windows Mobile through .NET Compact Framework .. and?!? Someone use Basic C64 programs in brand new Nokia N95?
What's the point than to have multi OS environment on S60v3 phones without 3rd party apps for this 'slave OS'?!? Just curious?

There are millions of programs for linux, tons of them with source available so it will be easy to compile them for an ARM platform. And of course, with linux phones all companys will release their apps for linux too.

tipu
31st May 2008, 10:07
There are millions of programs for linux, tons of them with source available so it will be easy to compile them for an ARM platform. And of course, with linux phones all companys will release their apps for linux too.

I believe motorolla is already launching linux phones like V8. But there are still no third party applications.

jarbamare
31st May 2008, 11:33
There are millions of programs for linux, tons of them with source available so it will be easy to compile them for an ARM platform.
Easy? Wowww ... do you compile a single Linux app. for some cell phone Motorola or similar?!?
Btw. you compare PC applications with Cell Phone apps? Hellooo?!?
For stupid example, you have billions of Windows programs also made freeware releases with source available, and ... do you have all this applications on some PDA or PPC phones? Single one of them?!?
We cannot compile S60v2 application to fit and run on this "new" phones S60v3 series but we are talking about some imaginated Linux 3rd party apps on cell phones ... my god ... SF ....
Wake up please, and grow up.
And of course, with linux phones all companys will release their apps for linux too.
Hellooo ... like i say: WAKE UP man, we have Linux based phones few years on market if you don't know.
And ... where are that Linux Mobile apps released by this "companies"? Where are this millions of apps for Linux which just dying to be compiled for mobile? "Companys" are to lazy to compile???

enjuto
31st May 2008, 15:39
I believe motorolla is already launching linux phones like V8. But there are still no third party applications.

I dont know if there are 3rd app for motorola linux phones, but anyway afaik motorola sux in many ways, including market share, so I would understand if there is no real interest in developing for them. Nokia is a different story :)

enjuto
31st May 2008, 15:51
Easy? Wowww ... do you compile a single Linux app. for some cell phone Motorola or similar?!?
Btw. you compare PC applications with Cell Phone apps? Hellooo?!?
For stupid example, you have billions of Windows programs also made freeware releases with source available, and ... do you have all this applications on some PDA or PPC phones? Single one of them?!?
We cannot compile S60v2 application to fit and run on this "new" phones S60v3 series but we are talking about some imaginated Linux 3rd party apps on cell phones ... my god ... SF ....
Wake up please, and grow up.

Hellooo ... like i say: WAKE UP man, we have Linux based phones few years on market if you don't know.
And ... where are that Linux Mobile apps released by this "companies"? Where are this millions of apps for Linux which just dying to be compiled for mobile? "Companys" are to lazy to compile???

Take it easy, there is no need to tell me to grow up, i'm 1,84 tall 8-)

Check this page http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/ , those are linux apps for nokia N8XX, lots of them (like mplayer) are present in all linux distros. If Nokia release more an more linux devices, more and more apps will be developed/ported

jarbamare
31st May 2008, 16:19
I talking in present not in some feature time ... I don't like to presume what will be when will be.

Just look at Handango etc. and you will see over the 10000 apps for Symbian OS ... this i call good support and good & useful OS!
If one OS is fully supported by 3rd party app developers we must accept fact that this OS is mainstream.
When and "if" ... 3rd party app developers accept Linux Mobile OS and start developing application for it and this applications comes in decent number for every purpose, THAN we can talk about Linux Mobile OS or even DUAL OS , blah, blah if you cant understand me. The same thing is with MAC mobile IPhone - that phone i don't count in "smart phones" with operating system!
This topic here is just "wish" ... ops. "dream" ...

tipu
31st May 2008, 18:44
@jarbamare This is discussion thread not anger manegment. Why are you flaming?? Lets discuss pros and cons politely.

jarbamare
1st June 2008, 18:57
@jarbamare This is discussion thread not anger manegment. Why are you flaming?? Lets discuss pros and cons politely.
If you don't have what to say about this matter, than stay away, you will be smarter!

riahc4
1st June 2008, 22:10
jarbamare - You are kind of dumb aren't you?

S60 might have thousands of applications but linux has MILLIONS. Last time I checked millions > thousands.

Opens a whole new world for applications.

jarbamare
2nd June 2008, 00:11
..... since it has several things that S60 3rd edition is missing; Mainly touch-screen, big screen and completely exposed OS ....
I TALKING ABOUT SYMBIAN OS AND ten thousands and more of application, NOT ABOUT S60 ONLY!
Read better my previous comments:
Just look at Handango etc. and you will see over the 10000 apps for Symbian OS ...
this i call good support and good & useful OS!
If one OS is fully supported by 3rd party app developers
we must accept fact that this OS is mainstream.
@ToJa92, are you heard for Symbian UIQ OS and Motorola A920/A925 ... Sony Ericsson P800/P900 etc ... ?!?

This phones has: touch-screen, big screen and completely exposed OS!

So, for your info, Symbian has all that you need, just buy one of them.
So, stop saying everyone is stupid because they want linux on their phones, it's their phones, right?
I didnt say that and don't lie. I just compare 3rd party apps for Symbian, Linux, WM Mobile and that MAC OS for iPhone and claim that Symbian is most value OS with his S60 version because has biggest developers support in 3rd party apps for it!;)
If you like "touch-screen, big screen and completely exposed OS" than you can use phones that i suggest.
Nice evening.

ToJa92
2nd June 2008, 02:04
@jarbamare: *sigh* nevermind. If people wants to dream about linux, let them do that. If you want s60 3rd edition fine. Good night...

jarbamare
2nd June 2008, 11:35
@ToJa92, i don't want S60v3 or Nokia or even Symbian ... i just want "smart phone" with best 3rd party apps support!;)

I,m not guilty for that because SYMBIAN S60 has most available 3rd party apps on this planet.

Btw. i like S60v2 platform, but now when S60v3 is full hacked and we have phones with higher CPU speed, bigger screen, Wi-Fi, GPS, ... i don't care.;) I just enjoy in thousands of usefull applications for my phone.

Cheerz!

ToJa92
3rd June 2008, 00:08
@ToJa92, i don't want S60v3 or Nokia or even Symbian ... i just want "smart phone" with best 3rd party apps support!;)

I,m not guilty for that because SYMBIAN S60 has most available 3rd party apps on this planet.

Btw. i like S60v2 platform, but now when S60v3 is full hacked and we have phones with higher CPU speed, bigger screen, Wi-Fi, GPS, ... i don't care.;) I just enjoy in thousands of usefull applications for my phone.

Cheerz!

Ohh, ok, I get your point. But you know, some might want linux for different reasons - maybe it's cool, or they can run their favorite apps, so it's their choice if they want to run linux or whatever, like it's your choice to run symbian because it has the largest 3rd party apps library, hope you get my point.

riahc4
13th June 2008, 01:51
@riahc4, are you born yesterday or you just act like a stupid person?!?

For you PC and cell phone share the same applications? Than PDA WM users can install and use on their phones all awailable PC apps like for example: Photoshop, CorelDraw, WinDVD, ... and BILLIONS of other Windows applications?
Why than iPhone users don't use all awailable MAC applications, ha?

Hello, how someone can be this much stupid and also give self a freedom to call other members "dumb" persons?

Why can't PC and cell phones share the same applications? I dont see whats wrong with that. The limitation right now keeping us from that is
processor speed/type
memory (RAM)
graphics (this the least)
and COST.

You ARE dumb for being so closed headed into saying its not possible. Of course it's possible but not right now.

riahc4
13th June 2008, 01:56
I just compare 3rd party apps for Symbian, Linux, WM Mobile and that MAC OS for iPhone and claim that Symbian is most value OS with his S60 version because has biggest developers support in 3rd party apps for it!
Linux and OSX has ALOT more 3rd party applications than Symbian. WM Mobile is the only one that comes up short my friend.
Linux has at least 179,507 programs (SourceForge)
OSX can run these programs as well (most, not all) AND you can use Wine to run some Windows application and on top of all that, can dual-boot Windows.

Symbian as a mobile platform is the strongest without a doubt but in other OS areas it sucks.

PHoeZies
14th June 2008, 08:18
interesting discussion.. :)
evryone has right to express their personal opinion.
arguing is ok as long as we stay on topic & keep a healthy friendly spirit..
cheerz

riahc4
16th June 2008, 22:00
I don't know why my replies were removed...

Anyways I perfer having S60v3 + Linux than just S60v3....Opens alot of possibilities.

ngel05
16th June 2008, 22:53
hey jarbamare I pray to god that you are not talking like this to your friends, wife...with so much anger! Because if you talk like this to everyone who got a difrent opinion of your..than you're N1 Stupid! There is no need that you use such anger to explain something.

I didn't know that there was phones runing linux os before Motorola V8. So like someone said that motorola is not so attractive, so it might be a reason why there aren't so many app. for it. When the new S60 Symbian OS.9 was out,in the first 2-3 months on the market were only 20 app at max for this OS.9....Look now! So if nokia or SE made a phone running Linux i'm sure that in 2-3 months there will be plant of app for linux mobile.

jarbamare
17th June 2008, 20:32
hey jarbamare ....than you're N1 Stupid! .
So, this is language and CULTURE from "Rep. Of Macedonia"?!? BRAVO!!!

Btw. i'm not anger guys - you are. You all express anger and insulting language because i criticise Linux Mobile OS, and that offense you because probably you are using Lunux OS on the home PC and auto think that this OS also must be Nr.1 for mobile phones hah...

As you see, i use Windows OS on my PC, but i not defend Windows Mobile phones! Think about ...


I just comment about MAINSTREAM smartphone OS TODAY on this planet EARTH. So stay cool if you like that or not - SYMBIAN is Nr.1.

When Linux Mobile Smartphone OS will be Nr.1 in the world, than i will use this kind of OS based phones! Till than - long live Nr.1 Symbian OS.

Nice evening~!

ngel05
18th June 2008, 01:35
Btw. i'm not anger guys - you are. You all express anger and insulting language because i criticise :D that's right

Yes u've seen my culture and language in only one post...what am i thinking about your culture and offensive language u used in this five pages???

btw i'm not using linux on my pc (ever tried) and yes u're right symbian is n.1 like you can see my list of phone.. but don't you think that maybe when linux will be out there it will be much better than symbian? Maybe linux will be with more performance for our device. And i'm sure it will be open source so everyone can customize it how we like it. When on the market is more way to choose (more OS for our device) we're not limited to use something that maybe we don't like. Plus u get example Ubuntu linux for free, your not going to pay Uncle Bill. Also there are million of app open source for linux u don't have to pay and are exactly like in windows.

btw the question of this post is Linux on Symbian (possible?)
And if you don't like it open your own post: do you like linux or not?

ngel05
18th June 2008, 01:46
look here: http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=263023

it's already out :D

jarbamare
18th June 2008, 11:07
look here: http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=263023

it's already out :D
Haha, read my comment, btw.: http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2097797&postcount=22
In Macedonia someone just say: "neje zlatno svje sto sja"!;)

sid_n80
18th June 2008, 22:13
Google's Android on N95!
http://thesymbianblog.com/2008/06/18/googles-android-on-a-n95/

demolition22
21st June 2008, 22:17
Google's Android on N95!



Thats new!
HOW???

sujon02
20th July 2008, 18:58
yeh its really good. I apritiate it.