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lessram
24th March 2009, 18:07
Hi,

It's ultra easy to create your own version of the new NavCore 8.410 for a TTOne V2;
* Download TTUser's NavCore and extract it to the SD
* Download TTUser's ttsystem and extract it to the SD
* Create a subfolder named config
* in this subfolder create a txt-file named setconfig.txt
* in this setconfig.txt write 2 lines;
model:x40light2
bton
* ad your desired map
* patch the map

DONE !!! EASY AS CAN BE ! (WITHIN 30 MINUTES)

But several people asked for a dump, so why not.
So here's a clean dump optimized for TTOne V2.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip (http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip)

Configured the way I think it is optimal for a TTOne V2
Includes basic LoquendoTTS files (just need to download and include your language files)
ALG/IQROUTE etc... all should work.

SUCCESS

Edit;
http://www.freefileserver.com/923705

Uploaded again

tendriver
24th March 2009, 18:21
Hi,

It's ultra easy to create your own version of the new NavCore 8.410 for a TTOne V2;
* Download TTUser's NavCore and extract it to the SD
* Download TTUser's ttsystem and extract it to the SD
* Create a subfolder named config
* in this subfolder create a txt-file named setconfig.txt
* in this setconfig.txt write 2 lines;
model:x40light2
bton
* ad your desired map
* patch the map

DONE !!! EASY AS CAN BE ! (WITHIN 30 MINUTES)

But several people asked for a dump, so why not.
So here's a clean dump optimized for TTOne V2.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip (http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip)

Configured the way I think it is optimal for a TTOne V2
Includes basic LoquendoTTS files (just need to download and include your language files)
ALG/IQROUTE etc... all should work.

SUCCESS

lessram,

Can you establish a wireless data connection with your setup?

Thanx,

tendriver

lessram
24th March 2009, 18:52
Not with this setup !
Because x40light2 disables BlueTooth functions!

tendriver
24th March 2009, 19:08
Not with this setup !
Because x40light2 disables BlueTooth functions!

Thanx!!!
tendriver

lepa71
24th March 2009, 19:20
Hey LessRam

Can I use loquendotts folder from 7.162 version that it was working on(ver 6.9)?

Thanks

Mikeyp7771
24th March 2009, 19:37
Not with this setup !
Because x40light2 disables BlueTooth functions!

I basically did this on my setup but without the setconfig bit. Whats the advantage of putting this extra code in? Is it just to save on the battery by disabling bluetooth stuff or is there issues with Bluetooth enabled?

Basically did what you did - plus added extra bmp, ogg files (startup/shutdown image/sound files). Not fully tested it but working fine so far with latest map.

lessram
24th March 2009, 19:58
x40light2 disables some features to save CPU power. Most disabled thing already never work on TTOne (like FM and Speech) In this case it also disables most BT function in such a way you can get LoquendoTTS to work.
x40light (without the 2) made my One freeze on the splashscreen
x40 (without light and without 2) can not handle LoquendoTTS on a TTOne

bton : after x40light disabled all BlueTooth funtions, with BTON some functions will be activated again, like the option to remove favorites.

@Lepa71: I am not sure. Personally I am using the dutch 6.5 voices. These are the big voices, less compressed (200+ MB per voice). I also tested this with the smaller voices (version 7) rar files are about 40MB per voice.
In the directory there is a folder EnglishTE 6.9 so I assume it will be working too, but I am not sure.

Best110
24th March 2009, 20:21
Hi may I use it on V3 too?
I have problem with X40light2 in config ! Reset Factory setting does not work!

rugolt
24th March 2009, 20:50
Great!
:thanks:

Best110
24th March 2009, 21:02
By the way there is not any bootloadre in your dump!
do i need any?
I added Bootloaderversion=5.5122, is it correct? or don't need any bootloader?

lessram
24th March 2009, 21:21
not needed !
infact that what everybody calls: bootloader is infact a "flashing tool including bootloader"
bootloader is flashed to the firmware chip of your device, and after this is done you don 't need the system file anymore.

If someone really wants to update the device' bootloader; they are included in the subdirectory _BOOTLOADER all versions as rar-file. So no-one can accidentally brick his device.
When everything works, you do not need to update your bootloader. You probably won't notice any difference after a good update.
Only difference anyone sofar knows of is that the later version support bigger SD cards and better support for MicroSD.
5.5122 is fine, but all others would have been fine too.
After you run the bootloader and it works, you can simply remove it

rugolt
24th March 2009, 21:43
My TTOne does not shut down into standby when I press the ON/OFF button,
instead it shuts down completely and the system is completely reloaded on
restart which takes much longer.

lepa71
24th March 2009, 21:47
Hi

I did try to put Big Susan (v6.9 280mb) version LoquendoTTS folder on the card and it worls like a charm.

I'm running x40light without 2. It's working so far.

I do have version7 LoquendoTTS and Small Susan 43 cab file. LessRam have you tried any of those? They are much smaller so I assume they are compressed.

Thanks

lessram
24th March 2009, 22:38
The about 40MB Loquendo files (version 7) do also work, but as you mentioned they're compressed ... so more work to do for the CPU causing delays in navigating. Not a big difference but every bit helps on a One.

Strange that you can use x40light without the 2
I have tried this a whole lot of times, but never worked.
Are you using a TTOne V2 with SD (New Edition) / 4N00.004.2 ????

Best110
24th March 2009, 22:44
@lessram
Thanks for helpful answer
But do you know why reset factory setting doesn't work on my tomtom one V3?

lessram
24th March 2009, 23:03
I know of 3 reset options;

the cleanflash switch - removes everything from memory
"paperclip" reset - pin in hole on the bottom of TomTom One
hard reset - pin in hole + holding the on/off for atleast 15 seconds

What doesn't work?

lessram
24th March 2009, 23:05
My TTOne does not shut down into standby when I press the ON/OFF button,
instead it shuts down completely and the system is completely reloaded on
restart which takes much longer.

Do you have the BTON switch in your setconfig.txt ?
Also; My TTOne needed 2 restarts before it started using the standby mode.
And: when you remove the SD from your device the complete reload procedure will start over (for the next 2 restarts)

Best110
24th March 2009, 23:06
If you go to last menu page there is icon called reset factory setting and when select it then it will freeze for tomtom V3

lessram
24th March 2009, 23:16
If you go to last menu page there is icon called reset factory setting and when select it then it will freeze for tomtom V3

Never tested it.
Tried it myself now, and it looks like it freezes on the red warning page. After about 1 minute waiting on this screen the tomtom reboots but all settings are unchanged (i.e. home address)

lepa71
24th March 2009, 23:54
No mine is 4N00.005 with SD (New Edition)

The about 40MB Loquendo files (version 7) do also work, but as you mentioned they're compressed ... so more work to do for the CPU causing delays in navigating. Not a big difference but every bit helps on a One.

Strange that you can use x40light without the 2
I have tried this a whole lot of times, but never worked.
Are you using a TTOne V2 with SD (New Edition) / 4N00.004.2 ????

lepa71
24th March 2009, 23:57
LessRam

Can you verify if you still have Autozoom option on your? I think mine disappeared after using x40light instead of x40.

Thanks

galronn
25th March 2009, 00:28
LessRam

Can you verify if you still have Autozoom option on your? I think mine disappeared after using x40light instead of x40.

Thanks

Mine's gone.

Everything is stable from booting to shutting it down with x40light2 but no autozoom.

Changed to X40 got it back, but everything is really unstable like shutting down.

lessram
25th March 2009, 01:00
Didn't notice autozoom was gone. But to be honest; I never used it, don't even know what it does/did.

galronn
25th March 2009, 01:16
Didn't notice autozoom was gone. But to be honest; I never used it, don't even know what it does/did.

It's great. On long trips you can see the road ahead for 2-3-4kms.

I just downgraded from 8.410 back to 8.320. it's stable, it shutdown correctly and autozoom is working.

vincentn1981
25th March 2009, 10:35
Autozoom is switch standard to on. in x40light(2) you cannot switch it off. In x40 the menu is there. Autozoom zooms when you are close to an interection or where velocities are low. At higher speeds it zooms out again.
For me the x40light switch seems to work better. So people whom have problems with the x40light2 not switch off properly should use x40light instead.
Lessram it is a good idea to add to the setconfig.txt file cleanflash, so you are sure everybody will automatically have all the settings removed (like the mapsettings.cfg file), which could cause problems.

Vcrone
25th March 2009, 10:50
Is there an option to delete hints in the menue? Or I need to delete it x40 and than switch to x40light2.
THX lessram for your work

lessram
25th March 2009, 11:06
Lessram it is a good idea to add to the setconfig.txt file cleanflash, so you are sure everybody will automatically have all the settings removed (like the mapsettings.cfg file), which could cause problems.

It's there already!

Is there an option to delete hints in the menue? Or I need to delete it x40 and than switch to x40light2.
THX lessram for your work

I do not have those hints....strange
but you could try with switch nomsg
go to folder config
edit setconfig.txt
add the nomsg switch

carpboy
25th March 2009, 11:07
can someone tell me what is the difference between using LoquendoTTS EnglishUk - Kate - 290mb and normal voices?

vincentn1981
25th March 2009, 11:12
@Lessram ok, good job.

lessram
25th March 2009, 11:18
can someone tell me what is the difference between using LoquendoTTS EnglishUk - Kate - 290mb and normal voices?

Loquendo voices can read streetnames, roadnumbers, traffic info, POI warnings, etc.... where normal voices only use pre-recorded words (or sentense parts) as commands like;
after xx meter, take the 2nd turn left

carpboy
25th March 2009, 11:24
i have downloaded EnglishUk - Kate - 290mb do i add this folder in zip to LoquendoTTS and delete every thing else in that folder?EnglishTE/lib and other files in there

lessram
25th March 2009, 12:00
NO!!!
Just remove the files like;
Amalia.vde
Bernard.vde
Carmen.vde
Dave.vde
Dutch6.5.lde
EnglishGb6.9.lde
EnglishTE6.9.lde
EnglishUs6.9.lde
Eusebio.vde
French6.5.lde
German6.5.lde
Italian6.5.lde
Jorge.vde
Juliette.vde
Kate.vde <----- don't remove this one, as you said you're using this one.
Katrin.vde
Luca.vde
Paola.vde
PortuguesePt6.5.lde
Saskia.vde
Simon.vde
SpanishEs6.5.lde
Stefan.vde
Susan.vde
ttsmp120.ogg
ttsmp121.ogg
ttsmp122.ogg
ttsmp123.ogg
ttsmp124.ogg
ttsmp125.ogg
ttsmp126.ogg
ttsmp127.ogg
ttsmp128.ogg
ttsmp129.ogg
ttsmp130.ogg
ttsmp131.ogg
ttsmp132.ogg
ttsmp133.ogg
Willem.vde

remove the ones you won't need, assuming in your case you don't need Saskia, Stephan, Portugues etc.... Also play the ogg files, and check whether they're your preferred language, if not.... delete

do not delete;
default.session
LicenseCode.txt

nor the sub-folders like /lib

Hybris91
25th March 2009, 12:25
Thanks for this dump optimized for TTOne V2.
Great ....

Celli
25th March 2009, 13:51
Hi,

It's ultra easy to create your own version of the new NavCore 8.410 for a TTOne V2;
* Download TTUser's NavCore and extract it to the SD
* Download TTUser's ttsystem and extract it to the SD
* Create a subfolder named config
* in this subfolder create a txt-file named setconfig.txt
* in this setconfig.txt write 2 lines;
model:x40light2
bton
* ad your desired map
* patch the map

DONE !!! EASY AS CAN BE ! (WITHIN 30 MINUTES)

But several people asked for a dump, so why not.
So here's a clean dump optimized for TTOne V2.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip (http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip)

Configured the way I think it is optimal for a TTOne V2
Includes basic LoquendoTTS files (just need to download and include your language files)
ALG/IQROUTE etc... all should work.

SUCCESS

Hi,
the file: http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip is corrupt, does not open. There is another link? Thank you.
Celli from Italy

Mikeyp7771
25th March 2009, 14:25
sometimes you dont get a clean download - download it again, you should be okay.

Best110
25th March 2009, 14:43
not needed !
infact that what everybody calls: bootloader is infact a "flashing tool including bootloader"
bootloader is flashed to the firmware chip of your device, and after this is done you don 't need the system file anymore.

If someone really wants to update the device' bootloader; they are included in the subdirectory _BOOTLOADER all versions as rar-file. So no-one can accidentally brick his device.
When everything works, you do not need to update your bootloader. You probably won't notice any difference after a good update.
Only difference anyone sofar knows of is that the later version support bigger SD cards and better support for MicroSD.
5.5122 is fine, but all others would have been fine too.
After you run the bootloader and it works, you can simply remove it



So I understand we have Bootloader file in root which you advise to remove it unless use SD card bigger than 4GB?
What about System? I think this is same as bootloader file? can I keep it or must rmove?
Any problem if we only remove bootloader and keep thee System file?

lessram
25th March 2009, 14:45
I have tested over and over, but on my TTOne I could never use the x40light switch, so had to use the x40light2 switch. Now some days later x40light suddenly does work.
x40light seems to be a better emulation, so try it yourself. To do this.

Go to the folder; config
open setconfig.txt
change model:x40light2 to model:x40light
now restart your TomTom 2 or 3 times
does it start ?
check whether it comes out of suspend/standby
If it works. Keep it this way
If not.... change back to model:x40light2

Celli
25th March 2009, 14:47
sometimes you dont get a clean download - download it again, you should be okay.


Now it works. Thanks for the council.

carpboy
25th March 2009, 14:54
for some reason when i do paper clip reset it stays on boot screen any idea?use to stay on it for a few secs then boots?

lessram
25th March 2009, 14:56
So I understand we have Bootloader file in root which you advise to remove it unless use SD card bigger than 4GB?
What about System? I think this is same as bootloader file? can I keep it or must rmove?
Any problem if we only remove bootloader and keep thee System file?

SYSTEM = NOT TTSYSTEM !!!
Never remove ttsystem !!

system = bootloader
it is not in the root of my dump, because most people won't need it.
If your tomtom works, keep it that way. changing the bootloader might brick your device.

The only reasons to change the bootloader are;
MicroSD not supported
SDHC not supported
SD capacity njot supported

If your (micro)SD / SDHC works... DO NOT CHANGE THE BOOTLOADER

to change the bootloader; take the system file out of the rar, place it in the root of the SD. Place SD in your tomtom. Start your TomTom (using fully loaded battery) Wait till the start is completely finished.

After this the bootloader is updated and you can remove the system file from the root again. (can also leave it, it's just a space filler which won't be used by the device anymore)

system file includes the code for the chip-firmware of your device
during a boot the device checks whether there is a system file in the root, if so it checks it's version, if it's newer it uypdates your device with it. If it's older or the same, the device does nothing with it.

Hope this makes it clearer?

nils16
25th March 2009, 17:10
Hello, I will use "German-Katrin" TTs

I think there are different versions? I found: German- Katrin.zip (272MB)

Is this the right one?

Thank You

Best110
25th March 2009, 17:12
@lessram

Thanks it was very helpfull but
1. if I leave system file on SD card or internal memeory then there is not any problem?
2. I have bootloaderversion.txt file which only have these detail

BootloaderTarget=s3c24xx
Bootloaderversion=5.5106


do I need to keep it or remove it or it is noting?

nils16
25th March 2009, 18:00
Hello

Now it "works" with german Katrin 6.5 300MB

But the TTOneV2 lags toooo much. Would it help to buy a SDHC?

I have Map 815.2157 with ALG and IQ.


Thank You

jktan99
25th March 2009, 21:32
But the TTOneV2 lags toooo much. Would it help to buy a SDHC?


I don;t think SDHC will help much. The lagging on TT V2 is more due to CPU and RAM. May be you can try emulation X40light2 (with 2 at the back).

nils16
25th March 2009, 21:36
I don;t think SDHC will help much. The lagging on TT V2 is more due to CPU and RAM. May be you can try emulation X40light2 (with 2 at the back).

Thank You, I do run in x40light2...
But weird is some say TTs runs perfect on they're OneV2. I cant believe that.
I tried also a SDHC, not better...

Well I give it up with TTs :-)

(Mostly I drive with no sound at all, i have the "Silent Voice" so I can hear the POI Speedcams warnings.)

But I love to try many things on the TT V2. Ive played many days with it. hehe

THX

lessram
26th March 2009, 14:05
TTS will run a little better if you disable the option to pronounce the street names etc.... But still there will be some lag. Personally I also still use the standard names. Liked to see and get TTS working, but I still use the standard voices.

jktan99
26th March 2009, 15:22
Thank You, I do run in x40light2...
But weird is some say TTs runs perfect on they're OneV2. I cant believe that.
I tried also a SDHC, not better...

Well I give it up with TTs :-)

THX

You can try Vocalizer for a change. It runs good. Although, it doesn't properly pronounce some abbreviations (e.g. "cres" instead of "crescent", "Pky" instead of "Parkway", but I think I got them fixed now.

I have TTOne V2 New edition and use X40light. I haven't tried TTS yet because I want to test my Vocalizer (for the fixes). However, I notice that I am missing some menu, especially the "clear route" menu. I tried using X30 and it's there. Not sure if this is the case for X40light.

lepa71
26th March 2009, 16:46
You can try Vocalizer for a change. It runs good. Although, it doesn't properly pronounce some abbreviations (e.g. "cres" instead of "crescent", "Pky" instead of "Parkway", but I think I got them fixed now.

I have TTOne V2 New edition and use X40light. I haven't tried TTS yet because I want to test my Vocalizer (for the fixes). However, I notice that I am missing some menu, especially the "clear route" menu. I tried using X30 and it's there. Not sure if this is the case for X40light.

"clear route" is there on screen when touch right bottom corner. In the middle.

I have a strange problem with "link volume to speed". It's ether to loud at high speed or too low at low speed.

Do any of you have the same problem?

@Lessram: what are prons and cons between light and light2?

lessram
26th March 2009, 18:20
Don't know the differences between x40light and x40light2
When I had problems with 8.410 someone wrote to use x40light2 instead of x40light. This solved my problem, so I kept using it. But I dunno the differences

lepa71
26th March 2009, 18:48
Lessram

Are you still using light2?

Thanks

poupoune1974
26th March 2009, 19:11
Hi and thanks for the dump,
I downloaded the dump, and the text files says it was for the new edition of the one.
The mine is a 4N00.004-2R, with a bootloader 5.5012
Can I use your dump ?

vincentn1981
26th March 2009, 19:18
About the differences between x40light and x40light2, actually there is not a lot of difference, only TomTom really knows this. The only thing I noticed is that some people like Lessram reported that x40light2 seem to work better on their device, in the sense that the start-up and shutdown is working better. I myself us a TToneV2 with the switch x40light and that for me seems to give good start-up and shutdown. If some people with a TToneV2 or other TTone still have problems with this shutdown and start-up with both switches TTuser could try to activate another one, however at the moment I do not see the need for that. Actually I think we do not need the x40light2 switch anymore, unless people really say that this switch is working better on their device than the x40light. I never see any clear messages on this however (Lessram I think is also doubting about using the x40light2 switch???).

lessram
26th March 2009, 19:22
@lepa71:
No, since 2 days my device suddenly works with x40light.... Don't know what caused it.

@poupoune1974:
I don't know why it wouldn't work.
But try it after you made a backup of your recent SD. Or easier; use a new SD. If it doesn't work.... place the other one back.
you know within 30 minutes whether it works or not.

martinisok
27th March 2009, 02:39
I have one v3 and just use x40 switch and it works fine. I use the Vocalizer voices though!

lessram
27th March 2009, 08:36
you only need x40light when you want LoquendoTTS
if not... x40 is a better choice, gives a little more options

carpboy
27th March 2009, 10:45
hi lessram can u tell me what files u have in your config folder and also do i need a version text in there(what does that one do?)is there some where that tells me what the different file u put in config folder do i know some of them but not all / do i need a version text in there aswell?

Best110
27th March 2009, 17:44
OK Tested on 4 model TomTom One V2 (one New edition with SD card) - One V3 - One V6 small 30 series - One XL

Tested 8401 and 8204 with save mode folder (Outsourced.bin)
Tested bootloader 5.5122(xl) - 5.5105, 5.5122 (for One v2 and V3)
Tested bootloader 5.5022 - 5.5026 (for one small V6)

Result x40:
Work all option except TTS Voice (no tested)
Need Change Keyboard to QWERTY manualy

Result X40light or X40light2:
TTS Voice work (no tested)
No Zoom option icon
No Splash sound
No suspend sound
Keyboard set to QWERTY
Bluetooth off (Good for V3 and v6)
Big problem; Select Reset Factory Setting, will crashed for all device and you need to do hard reset (use Cleanflash for V3 and XL) ***


*** Any problem with X40light or X40light2 for V3 or XL then you need to do use Cleanflash in config or TTN (clean flash file) in main root or you can replace to X40 then soft reset
** Also hard reset work for One V2, v6, XL (keep reset button for at least 15 seconds)

Hope you enjoy

baronvont
27th March 2009, 19:23
Problem solved!

martinisok
28th March 2009, 21:12
Will the small loquendo voices work with this as I have only little space left? I had them before but deleted them as the didn't work with x40, no I can't find them again.

mmalka
29th March 2009, 05:54
Never mind the message below. I found the problem with my Loquendo folder, fixed it and now the voices are working. Everything seems fine running in Demo mode. I have yet to take it for a spin to test it in real conditions.

Lessram and TTUser, THANK YOU!!! for your hard work and willingness to share.

--------------------------------
Lessram,
I've been using for several months your dump of 8.204 with Vocalizer, Lane Assist, IQ, etc. without any problems, so I decided to give 8.410 a shot using the dump you posted.
My device is a One 2nd Edition (aka New Edition), 4N00.005, and I use NA map v825.2157 and boot 5.5106.
I tried X40 and X40light2 modes, with the same results: Loquendo computer voices (TTS) do not work. When I select them like Susan or Dave, and click Test, it works fine, but when I create a route and go into demo (at 200%), there is no sound. With regular voices the sound works ok, but of course there is no TTS.
I also noticed that for some reason an "old" problem resurfaced: when approaching a turn, the unit used sometimes is yards instead of feet. I say sometimes because it is not always that it happens - I don't know if it depends on the voice selected. This is odd...
So that you know, what I did:
1- Took a blank SD card, formatted it (FAT32), and unzipped your dump into it
2- Added my map and used EasyTools
3- Installed the card, pressed the reset briefly and started the TT.
By the way, I have about 4.4Mb free RAM.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

jktan99
29th March 2009, 06:49
I tried X40 and X40light2 modes, with the same results: Loquendo computer voices (TTS) do not work.

?

What TTS voice are you using? Big ones or small ones? For this Navcore, it's better if you use the big ones (about 250 mb), because it's not compressed. I use the big Dave voice and it seems to be working okay with X40light.

mmalka
29th March 2009, 07:33
What TTS voice are you using? Big ones or small ones? For this Navcore, it's better if you use the big ones (about 250 mb), because it's not compressed. I use the big Dave voice and it seems to be working okay with X40light.

I used big ones: Susan and Dave.

LaurentG
29th March 2009, 12:41
On my TT One v2 (SirfStar + SD Card), it wrks fine with some Loquendo voices (Juliette (french), Luca (Italian), Paola (Italian)), but NOT with some other (Bernard (french)).
And nevertheless, Juliette and Bernard are coming from the same zip file.... and all of them are "big voices"

bolgow
29th March 2009, 17:14
On my TT One v2 (SirfStar + SD Card), it wrks fine with some Loquendo voices (Juliette (french), Luca (Italian), Paola (Italian)), but NOT with some other (Bernard (french)).
And nevertheless, Juliette and Bernard are coming from the same zip file.... and all of them are "big voices"

I got "French-female-Juliette.cab" (32Mb) but I dont know where to extract this cab file to start LoquendoTTS to work. Should I remove the recorded voices to make it work ?

any help pls ?

vincentn1981
29th March 2009, 17:43
It's Loquendo sorry, my mistake.

bolgow
29th March 2009, 18:21
duplicate duplicate

bolgow
29th March 2009, 18:29
Ok, thank you so much, so I was wrong......

.....I have to create a folder VocalizerTTS wher I extract the whole cab file.
uhhh......only the dataxxx.chk are showing when I want to change the voices.

Do I need to remove the Loquendo folder ?

vincentn1981
29th March 2009, 18:33
Yes, you have to extract the .cab file in a directory named VocalizerTTS which you have to make in root. You can leave the LoquendoTTS directory on there, it does not matter.

bolgow
29th March 2009, 19:19
I tried x40 , x40light , x40light2,

but still no other choice than the dataxx.chk voices : the Vocalizer voice is not listed when I want to change the voice to a computer one.

vincentn1981
29th March 2009, 19:25
If you use x40, x40light or x40light2 does not matter at all for VocalizerTTS.
You must be doing something wrong. Have you paid attention to the fact that the directory name VocalizerTTS is case sensative?

TTuser
29th March 2009, 19:40
This is a x30 LoquendoTTS Voices, not vocalizer

bolgow
29th March 2009, 20:00
Thank you TTUser,
I switch to x30 in setconfig and move the files to LoquendoTTS, but this voice is not listed in the choice to change the voices.
May be my cab file is corrupt... Any idea where to find a other cab for computer voice ?

TTuser
29th March 2009, 20:19
is then tts at all switched on or have you somewhere ttsoff?
view the config.txt in Folder text

can you make a picture or similar from you loquendotts folder that we can see which files you where have

bolgow
29th March 2009, 20:32
setconfig.txt =
model : x40light2
bton

--------------
LoquendoTTS
---bin
---data
------languages
---------French
------voices
---------Juliette (~ 30Mo)
---default7.session
---LicenseCode7.txt
---------------------

TTuser
29th March 2009, 20:48
have you copy also the files from basicpack? seems not

bolgow
29th March 2009, 20:57
Thank You TTUser,

...Im completely wrong apparently....

where could I pick up this pack, and in which folder do I install it ?
......I need a serious training....:confused:

TTuser
29th March 2009, 21:07
from here
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2563628&postcount=1

copy then also the loquendotts Folder from basicpack to Device and overwrite existing Files from Voice

bolgow
29th March 2009, 21:45
Thank you TTUser,

You are the BEST ! the computer voice Juliette now appears in the list !

Thank you so much !:good2:

pwngraphik
30th March 2009, 00:39
hey there.

lessram, can you upload the file somewhere else? the download timeouts every time...

thanks!

pete9567
30th March 2009, 01:55
Hi Lessram
Thanks for the dump, its cool and thanks to TTUser of course. There is one thing Im not sure about. Running x40light and loquendo voices - blutooth is removed and the music and media functions. Thats cool. But is there any way to be able to access the doc reader because I use this to view a script file output of a triplog I run in the background? Dont need mp3, ipod controll or even the photogallery but the doc reader is just so usefull. Maybe you or someone can help me?

Thanks so much for all the work you have done.

RMC74
30th March 2009, 11:48
Lessram (and TTuser ofcourse) once again: thank u! The 'standard' dump works excellent on my v2, TMC seemed to to pick up the signal even faster but that can also be wishfull thinking. Startup is extremely fast, only after being connected to TT home it takes an additional 10 seonds or so. TTS on my v2 is a no-go: by the time it has figured out how to pronounce a street (during the process the screen freezes as well) I am at the next exit...

lessram
30th March 2009, 11:52
Uploaded again. See 1st post

lessram
30th March 2009, 11:58
Lessram (and TTuser ofcourse) once again: thank u! The 'standard' dump works excellent on my v2, TMC seemed to to pick up the signal even faster but that can also be wishfull thinking. Startup is extremely fast, only after being connected to TT home it takes an additional 10 seonds or so. TTS on my v2 is a no-go: by the time it has figured out how to pronounce a street (during the process the screen freezes as well) I am at the next exit...

The TTS problem cannot be solved. Simply because the cpu is too slow. (That´s why I don´t use TTS either)
TMC: I wish mine would work. For the last few weeks I didn't have to drive more then 15 km from my house. Never got any signal. But I had that problem also with previous NavCores, seems to be a problem of the region (too weak signal???) Tomorrow I have a longer trip, where it previously picked up the signal. I hope it will work, but doubt it. I think my receiver (mini USB version) is broken.

lessram
30th March 2009, 12:05
....is there any way to be able to access the doc reader because I use this to view a script file output of a triplog I run in the background? Dont need mp3, ipod controll or even the photogallery but the doc reader is just so usefull. Maybe you or someone can help me?

You have to hope TTUser can change this. But I think this is impossible, the mp3/photo/doc-reader comes a a package. All or nothing.... Can have it but then without LoquendoTTS. Just use the x40 switch.
(I'm not sure never tested it)

Thanks so much for all the work you have done.

Not me !! Thank TTUser !!! I just dumped my installation setup. TTUser did the big job he is the designer of it.

vincentn1981
30th March 2009, 12:07
@Lessram I noticed you have in your dump the 44kb file instead of the better 52 kb file mctx.dat.
How well LoquendoTTS works is also a little dependent on what language you have. For example enlgish is a much shorter language, which takes up lees CPU time, however dutch or german takes up more CPU time and therefore causes the TToneV2 to lag a lot.
First I had the idea that my TMC receiver was also not working, but after copying back the basicpack from TTuser for this navcore it worked within a few minutes, like usual. In that basicpack is also the 52kb file.

pwngraphik
30th March 2009, 15:12
Thanks for the mirror! It took me one minute to download the file. ;)

bolgow
31st March 2009, 16:13
so....

I tested Loquendo with Navcore 8.410 (french voice Juliette), all is OK, no delay on a TTOne V1 (CPU speed 380 is sufficient).

However, I have one lil question : how to compensate the sound levels difference between the ogg files (speedcam wanings) and the Computer Voice ?

Any idea ? Thank you.

lessram
31st March 2009, 17:06
so....

I tested Loquendo with Navcore 8.410 (french voice Juliette), all is OK, no delay on a TTOne V1 (CPU speed 380 is sufficient).

No set it up in such a way it also tells you the streetnames :)
Then you'll notice delays while driving (and slightly in demo mode)

bolgow
31st March 2009, 17:13
It was set with the streets names, however no delay on V1.

lessram
31st March 2009, 18:52
Then French must be an easier language to the TTOne compared to Dutch.
(Though my scores at school, a million years ago, would make me believe the opposite.... :( French was THE reason I had to switch to another (lower) schooling level )

vincentn1981
31st March 2009, 19:00
The TTOneV1 has indeed a faster CPU, so therefore it could very well be true that LoquendoTTS on this type is working fine. Unfortunately the TTOneV2 and V3 have a lower CPU speed.

lessram
31st March 2009, 23:33
Ooopsss... overread it concerned a V1

Kabake
1st April 2009, 00:15
Then French must be an easier language to the TTOne compared to Dutch.
(Though my scores at school, a million years ago, would make me believe the opposite.... :( French was THE reason I had to switch to another (lower) schooling level )

Please give a link for the Dutch files?

danielpop
1st April 2009, 11:14
Here we go with another dump...:dance:

I still don't get why one need bton switch in x40light mode. This mode doesn't load any library related to BT, so why need the flag? I read the urban legends about 'Delete Favorite' not working unless bton flag is set. This was true for 8.204, but not anymore for 8.410. At least, for my TT ONE V400.005, it's working fine without bton flag.

Does anyone else know any reason for bton flag in x40light mode?

Of course, for x40 emulation mod it's mandatory if you're planning to use BT functions. And also, don't use rm switch together with bton because it breaks BT functions.

Raffetti
1st April 2009, 15:34
BTON is NOT related to Bluetooth functions, but only to let autovelox in tomtom service to appear, or not to be greyed .... (read from readmenot.txt)

It's true, however that is applyed by default, so in fact, there is no need to put it in setconfig, but how the ancient latins wrote "repetita iuvant"

moustique82
1st April 2009, 15:56
Does it works for a Go 300? Need to modify something?

Tks

ds7775
1st April 2009, 16:14
I have a GO 300 and can confirm it works a treat ! also with the latest 825 uk /ire maps

danielpop
1st April 2009, 18:52
BTON is NOT related to Bluetooth functions, but only to let autovelox in tomtom service to appear, or not to be greyed .... (read from readmenot.txt)

It's true, however that is applyed by default, so in fact, there is no need to put it in setconfig, but how the ancient latins wrote "repetita iuvant"

In x40light mode all the TT services are available and enabled in user interface. In x40light2 mode, only 3 of TT services are available and enabled in the user interface, among which TT cameras is one of them. It's true that I didn't test if cameras really work, but I assume that they are. If anyone can give it a try it would be great since I'm not leaving in a region covered by TT cameras. So, bton it's not for this.

moustique82
2nd April 2009, 00:29
I have a GO 300 and can confirm it works a treat ! also with the latest 825 uk /ire maps

Does it works with Loquendo Voices? No lag?
What have you written in your setconfig.txt?
Tks

retrobot
2nd April 2009, 22:40
Can you use the loquendo TTS if you dont use any type of emulation? I currently do not have any type of emulation set.

ipbr21054
5th April 2009, 03:19
Hi,

It's ultra easy to create your own version of the new NavCore 8.410 for a TTOne V2;
* Download TTUser's NavCore and extract it to the SD
* Download TTUser's ttsystem and extract it to the SD
* Create a subfolder named config
* in this subfolder create a txt-file named setconfig.txt
* in this setconfig.txt write 2 lines;
model:x40light2
bton
* ad your desired map
* patch the map

DONE !!! EASY AS CAN BE ! (WITHIN 30 MINUTES)

But several people asked for a dump, so why not.
So here's a clean dump optimized for TTOne V2.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip (http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip)

Configured the way I think it is optimal for a TTOne V2
Includes basic LoquendoTTS files (just need to download and include your language files)
ALG/IQROUTE etc... all should work.

SUCCESS

Edit;
http://www.freefileserver.com/923705

Uploaded again

I always get stuck at this point,please help once again.I have had a look around but not sure what i need to do etc.
I was currently using map 720.1802 + v8.02 and have downloaded this dump.
When i switch unit on and start to setup language time etc it then shows you cannot use this map on this device.
Please advise what i need to do thanks very much.

ipbr21054
5th April 2009, 04:03
I have now found the video that tells me how to sort out the map issue.
I have restarted the TT and i can here the drums at start up and i see the splash screen but then nothing happens from there.
I have connected the sd card to the pc and checked that i have the txt file in the config folder and yes they are there.
I have put a paper clip in the reset hole twice but still the same please help.
NOW UPDATED.
.....................

I have formatted the sd card again and started from the begining.
I have Added the dump files to sd card.
I have Added the map to sd card.
Now when i switch on the TT i am guided throgh some basic settings time language etc.
When i get so far i am told i cant use this map on this device.
I use easy user tools and do the use me for all automatic 8.010 & higher option.
I then restart the TT and run through the basic setup again.
I now see the map working on the screen and select my prefered settings.
I have planned a route and watched it in demo mode and works well.
All seems to work fine BUT
When i next turn on the TT i hear the drums but the unit freezes at the splash screen.
I have now done the above steps 3 times but the same thing everytime.
Please can you advise what may be wrong OR i am doing something wrong each time thus given me this problem.
Map being used 720.1802

ipbr21054
5th April 2009, 15:14
I have tested over and over, but on my TTOne I could never use the x40light switch, so had to use the x40light2 switch. Now some days later x40light suddenly does work.
x40light seems to be a better emulation, so try it yourself. To do this.

Go to the folder; config
open setconfig.txt
change model:x40light2 to model:x40light
now restart your TomTom 2 or 3 times
does it start ?
check whether it comes out of suspend/standby
If it works. Keep it this way
If not.... change back to model:x40light2

I am slowly working my way through this and gaining progress,in order for my TT to get past the splash screen i have had to edit the setconfig.txt to x40
It now gets past splash screen ok,would not work with light or light2.

piquadrat
6th April 2009, 00:32
Hi,

where can i download the equivalent loquendo tts german voices stefan and katrin (version 6.5 ?) that run with your dump?

thx piquadrat

danielpop
6th April 2009, 11:00
Can you use the loquendo TTS if you dont use any type of emulation? I currently do not have any type of emulation set.

If don't set any emulation the default emulation mode is used, which is x40. In x40 mode I'm not able to use LoquendoTTS voices and, most likely, neither do you.

ipbr21054
8th April 2009, 16:58
Hi

I did try to put Big Susan (v6.9 280mb) version LoquendoTTS folder on the card and it worls like a charm.

I'm running x40light without 2. It's working so far.

I do have version7 LoquendoTTS and Small Susan 43 cab file. LessRam have you tried any of those? They are much smaller so I assume they are compressed.

Thanks
Please advise,i have downloaded the simon voice which had been taken from a go910,is this ok for a TT one.
If so once i have extracted it i have a folder english gb and within in it is a simon folder and 6 separate files.
Please advise in which folder on the TT i put what is required for it to work,ie,english gb folder or otherwise.cheers

colorsharp
11th April 2009, 01:57
Hi,

It's ultra easy to create your own version of the new NavCore 8.410 for a TTOne V2;
* Download TTUser's NavCore and extract it to the SD
* Download TTUser's ttsystem and extract it to the SD
* Create a subfolder named config
* in this subfolder create a txt-file named setconfig.txt
* in this setconfig.txt write 2 lines;
model:x40light2
bton
* ad your desired map
* patch the map

DONE !!! EASY AS CAN BE ! (WITHIN 30 MINUTES)

But several people asked for a dump, so why not.
So here's a clean dump optimized for TTOne V2.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip (http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip)

Configured the way I think it is optimal for a TTOne V2
Includes basic LoquendoTTS files (just need to download and include your language files)
ALG/IQROUTE etc... all should work.

SUCCESS

Edit;
http://www.freefileserver.com/923705

Uploaded again

ok im pretty new to all this but im learning fast

i got everything unlocked the maps too


i just have 1 ? there is a zipped file called switch files should i do somthing with that i know it has somthing to do with editing the navcore itself or somthing but should i be doing somthing with this file or no just leave it in the root with everything else untouched , let me know thanks and ps im about to make the config txt and test it out on tomtom one v2

sylvain50
11th April 2009, 11:24
Thank you lessram for this dump ! Very useful for me to put TTS on my One 30Series.

But the male french voice from TTuser is not working at all... Think it's due to the package size I downloaded.

Thanks again.

markham
14th April 2009, 20:35
Thanks for the dump and guide.
I have a TT One v2, 4GB SDHC card. Boot 5.5106, navcore 8.410, Map: North_America v825.2157. 32MB RAM (free:3.4 MB)
I followed the guide, I got my TT booting up and recognizing Susan computer voice. Trying a demo route I found the video kind of choppy and I don't know if ALG is really working.
The route I picked was in Toronto, changing from HWY 401E to 404N and 407E. Is ALG suppose to show up in DEMO mode?

My config shows:
Clean Flash
Current Emulation: x40 light2
BT: 1
TTS: on
Cleaning disabled
Create ttgo.bak

Any idea on the ALG? Anything I can do to make it run smoother and have IQ, ALG and TTS on a V2?

Thanks a lot!

Foxylady
15th April 2009, 12:55
Will try this later on my ONE V2, But all the files in the Zip file are just that files, there are not any folders for example ART, Voices etc, do i need them or just simply put this directly onto the sd card?
Thank
Sharon

Foxylady
15th April 2009, 18:20
I have installed this, left same map on, only difference are little ones, splash screen, clear route etc, i have made an art folder for my car icon as it did not have one, I have also made a folder called LoquendoTTS and installed the revelant files aso but how do i select them and what differencences are they to standard voices?
My alg and iq routes already worked with TTUSERS 8.204, is there any point in me keeping this or is it only for having it?

tendriver
15th April 2009, 18:43
I have installed this, left same map on, only difference are little ones, splash screen, clear route etc, i have made an art folder for my car icon as it did not have one, I have also made a folder called LoquendoTTS and installed the revelant files aso but how do i select them and what differencences are they to standard voices?
My alg and iq routes already worked with TTUSERS 8.204, is there any point in me keeping this or is it only for having it?

I don't know what you downloaded. The download in post #1 of this thread has 20 folders in it.

Foxylady
15th April 2009, 20:01
I downloaded this as in the link, it is the dump the poster did for ONE users:-
http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip

tendriver
15th April 2009, 20:21
I downloaded this as in the link, it is the dump the poster did for ONE users:-
http://www.filefactory.com/file/af7ea1a/n/8410forOne.zip

I asked because in your post 110, you said there were no folders in the download. All the folders are there.

Foxylady
15th April 2009, 23:41
They are no folders, i have taken some screenshots of files in the zip file i dwonloaded and not one folder, it is asthou i have to make folders myself?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Pedrosgolf/Image1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Pedrosgolf/Image2.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Pedrosgolf/Image3.jpg

markham
16th April 2009, 00:25
extract the zip first and than you'll see it for yourself.

markham
16th April 2009, 06:51
opened a new thread with my toturial for ALG, TTS, IQ for TT One, navcore 8.410

Foxylady
16th April 2009, 16:21
I extracted the zip only to desktop then click on the zip file again, Again NO folders just files, i know how do this, and clearly as shown no folders

RMC74
20th April 2009, 17:58
For the heavy-upgraders: should the anti-aliasing for 8.410 be the same as with the new 8.412? I don't really notice any effect with this dump on my V2.

BTW, this dump works flawlessly on the V1 as well! And another pro: with my previous Navcore the TMC-information was less detailed, now I get all the details like traffic-cams, blocked lanes etc. Nice!

kgorczyn
24th April 2009, 19:21
Will this work on a Tom Tom One LE? What version is the LE? 1, 2, or 3? Or is it a totally different entity?

I'm a complete newbie and I cant hack my Tom Tom for the life of me :-( Any help will be greatly appreciated. I can download all the maps, navcores, etc., I just don't know what versions I need/work best.

I have read and searched countless posts on this forum and I am so lost.

On my Tom Tom One LE (it has a SD Memory Card Slot) I want to install/update Maps, POIs, and any other goodies that are available.

Here is some information from the "Show Version" screen...
App 7.900
GPS v1.21, Boot 5.3029
Map: 'USA_and_Canada' v705.1481

Will this hack that's in this thread work? What version of the maps do I need to download, and how do I install them?

Thanks,
Chris

dzzpapi
27th April 2009, 08:02
Its freezed.
After the insatllation, it works fine, but after reboot (power off and on) it freezed.
Cannot be power off.
Please help, how can it be alive.
Have tried to reconnect to computer, but it cannot be recognized.
What I should I do, please help

lessram
27th April 2009, 13:54
Paperclip reset !
On the bottom of you tomtom you'll see a small hole.
Stick a paperclip in it, and the deviced will reset itself.

dzzpapi
1st May 2009, 19:12
Have tried.
After reboot, it still stuck with logo and no more onward.
Tried to connect to usb, it cannot be recongized.
What should I do then ?

markham
1st May 2009, 22:40
try to reset your device by holding a pin for 15 sec in the that Reset pin hole. Than hold the POower button for 3-4 sec. You'll see like a POST screen. restart again

killabee44
1st May 2009, 23:54
oops..wrong thread.:oops2:

Fred Savage
17th May 2009, 02:21
Just installed lessram's 8.410 dump on my TT One V2, German computer voice Katrin (uncompressed) seems to work (at least the demo does). I wanted to check the voice settings to see if "Read aloud street names" is enabled but I cannot find the menu button "voice settings" anylonger, it seems as it is not present in this version.
Is that due to the "model:x40light2" entry in setconfig.txt ? Or am I just looking in the wrong spot ?

Thanks !

muscles019
17th May 2009, 13:05
Have tried.
After reboot, it still stuck with logo and no more onward.
Tried to connect to usb, it cannot be recongized.
What should I do then ?

Make sure bootloader version installed is greater than version 4.xxxx

You may need to install newer version 5.xxxx bootloader from 256mb or 512mb SD card before a larger SD card will be recognised.

Fred Savage
19th May 2009, 17:46
Lessram's dump works fine on my One V2, unfortunately as soon as I pick the (uncompressed) computer voice, display of route gets choppy, maps even freezes occasionally. It gets completely stuck when I choose "read street names aloud" so I switched back to standard voice. I assume the unit's processor is simply not powerful enough to make navigation work flawlessly with computer voices enabled.

Or did anybody succeed using a One V2 with computer voice & street name reading WITHOUT the unit freezing up entirely ?

vincentn1981
19th May 2009, 17:49
Yes, if you use the VocalizerTTS voices in stead of the LoquendoTTS voices your unit will run fine, however the quality of the voice will also be much less. However it can read street names etc.

muscles019
19th May 2009, 18:27
Lessram's dump works fine on my One V2, unfortunately as soon as I pick the (uncompressed) computer voice, display of route gets choppy, maps even freezes occasionally. It gets completely stuck when I choose "read street names aloud" so I switched back to standard voice. I assume the unit's processor is simply not powerful enough to make navigation work flawlessly with computer voices enabled.

Or did anybody succeed using a One V2 with computer voice & street name reading WITHOUT the unit freezing up entirely ?

I found this myself when using a 2gb sd card. The simple answer is, and this has worked brilliantly for me on my TTONEv2, is to format a 4gb sd card with a class 6 speed rating. I actually used a Transcend microSD card with the sd adapter provided. (about £5 on ebay). Place in your setconfig.txt file:
model:x40light2
runclean
cleanflash

that's all. Then put autorun.inf in the route with the following:
[autorun]
icon=tomtom.ico
action=TomTom ONE
label=TomTom ONE

My TTONEv2 runs faultlessly with the full LoquendoTTS version 6 files announcing road numbers, street names and all other warnings.
I think it must be important to use the fastest sd card available due to the fact that the CPU is slower in this device. The advantage of using the 4gb card also allows you to use the W&CE v830.2305 which works without any issues at all.
I hope this helps you stop the stuttering voice!

Fred Savage
19th May 2009, 18:56
I found this myself when using a 2gb sd card. The simple answer is, and this has worked brilliantly for me on my TTONEv2, is to format a 4gb sd card with a class 6 speed rating. I actually used a Transcend microSD card with the sd adapter provided. (about £5 on ebay). Place in your setconfig.txt file:
model:x40light2
runclean
cleanflash

that's all. Then put autorun.inf in the route with the following:
[autorun]
icon=tomtom.ico
action=TomTom ONE
label=TomTom ONE

My TTONEv2 runs faultlessly with the full LoquendoTTS version 6 files announcing road numbers, street names and all other warnings.
I think it must be important to use the fastest sd card available due to the fact that the CPU is slower in this device. The advantage of using the 4gb card also allows you to use the W&CE v830.2305 which works without any issues at all.
I hope this helps you stop the stuttering voice!

Thanks a lot for the hint :wave:. I had just purchased a new SanDisk 4GB SDCard but I now realize it was a bad choise: it's a Class2 card ! I will get a Class6 card and try the settings you suggested. What do I need the autorun.inf settings for ? I don't suppose they are active on my version...

muscles019
19th May 2009, 19:42
Thanks a lot for the hint :wave:. I had just purchased a new SanDisk 4GB SDCard but I now realize it was a bad choise: it's a Class2 card ! I will get a Class6 card and try the settings you suggested. What do I need the autorun.inf settings for ? I don't suppose they are active on my version...

This allows the new navcore to create a file in the root of your sd card: ttgo.bak
This allows TTHome to recognise your device as an "original" with version 9.703
That reminds me. As well as setconfig.txt in your config folder, you need to place a text file "version.txt" with the following within it:
A:7903
B:9183
That should sort you out OK. Let me know how you get on once you get hold of the class 6 card!
:goodluck:

vincentn1981
20th May 2009, 13:18
Editting the autorun.ico file is not needed. Only the version.txt file is needed to let TT home think you use a valid NavCore version for your device.

@muscles019 Which language do you use for loquendoTTS? Probably enlgish, because with languages which are more CPU intensive (like german and dutch) the TToneV2 will just hang at intersections because it has to pronounce the street names.

muscles019
20th May 2009, 13:31
Editting the autorun.ico file is not needed. Only the version.txt file is needed to let TT home think you use a valid NavCore version for your device.

@muscles019 Which language do you use for loquendoTTS? Probably enlgish, because with languages which are more CPU intensive (like german and dutch) the TToneV2 will just hang at intersections because it has to pronounce the street names.

I use the autorun.inf file purely to show the TomTom icon alongside the drive letter when viewing the contents of my sd card from My Computer in windowsXP.
I indeed use the English language files only along with the Basic TTS file pack.

vincentn1981
20th May 2009, 13:39
What do you mean with the Basic TTS file pack. Are you sure you are not using VocalizerTTS? You are really running LoquendoTTS (250 mb per voice in size) for the x10 devices on a TTOneV2 without any lagging when it has to pronounce a street name (or did you switch this function off)?

By the way why are you all still using the 8.410 version and not the newer 8.413 version?

muscles019
20th May 2009, 13:44
What do you mean with the Basic TTS file pack. Are you sure you are not using VocalizerTTS? You are really running LoquendoTTS (250 mb per voice in size) for the x10 devices on a TTOneV2 without any lagging when it has to pronounce a street name (or did you switch this function off)?

By the way why are you all still using the 8.410 version and not the newer 8.413 version?

I am using the full 250mb English Kate & Simon voices with absolutely no issues at all.
I am also using another 512mb sd card with navcore 8.413 with the compressed English voices, again with no problem.
I identify between the 2 different cards by using switch file sdid:1 and sdid:2 in the setupconfig.txt file for the respective cards. That way my TT doesn't need settings updated whenever I change cards.

vincentn1981
20th May 2009, 13:48
Humm, I am quite suprised about that, because on my TTOneV2 with SDHC class 6 card even the Eglish Loquendo voices x10 version do not that smooth that it is really usuable for me. Maybe I should try again, but I think I will be lees fortunate than you :(.

scottydog90
24th May 2009, 23:41
I am using the full 250mb English Kate & Simon voices with absolutely no issues at all.
I am also using another 512mb sd card with navcore 8.413 with the compressed English voices, again with no problem.
I identify between the 2 different cards by using switch file sdid:1 and sdid:2 in the setupconfig.txt file for the respective cards. That way my TT doesn't need settings updated whenever I change cards.

muscles019 have read with interest your posts on this navcore.
i have the navcore installed and running beautifully but on standard voices.
if i select computer voice kate and then test i hear her voice but when driving a route/demo i hear nothing.at first i thought my tt one v2 wasn't powerful enough but you say you have it running great.
my loguendotts folder is only 4.72mb so obviously something is amiss.
all other settings are as your previous posts.
i have downloaded kate folder which is 290mb from this site
how do i proceed from this point??
also i have a legitimate tomtom 530go and that runs with computer voice kate but its loguendotts folder is only 91mb...would i be better off copying this folder over to my tomtom one in its entirety???
any advice greatfully received:thanks:

kevpc
25th May 2009, 10:16
i downloaded the files from post 1 and extracted them to a new, formatted (tried fat and fat32) 2gig sd card in a card reader. then i added the United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2305 map folder but was unable to patch the map using easyusetool. tried the 'runmeforallautomatic' option but got nowhere. kept saying that no meta txt file, when there was/is and no list of drives was showing. should the sd card be put into the tomtom or can the patching be done through the card reader? any ideas as to what i am doing wrong please? help would be greatly appreciated.

vincentn1981
25th May 2009, 11:28
The meta.txt which you are using does not contain the meta code for the map you are using. Try to find this meta code and edit the meta.txt file accordingly or download a newer meta.txt file. The meta codes and txt can be foun din the v830 map topic.

muscles019
25th May 2009, 11:33
muscles019 have read with interest your posts on this navcore.
i have the navcore installed and running beautifully but on standard voices.
if i select computer voice kate and then test i hear her voice but when driving a route/demo i hear nothing.at first i thought my tt one v2 wasn't powerful enough but you say you have it running great.
my loguendotts folder is only 4.72mb so obviously something is amiss.
all other settings are as your previous posts.
i have downloaded kate folder which is 290mb from this site
how do i proceed from this point??
also i have a legitimate tomtom 530go and that runs with computer voice kate but its loguendotts folder is only 91mb...would i be better off copying this folder over to my tomtom one in its entirety???
any advice greatfully received:thanks:

You need to extract the English Kate .cab file (folder EnglishGB) to the LoquendoTTS directory on your TomTom and then recopy the original LoquendoTTS folder from the Navcore download into the folder on your TT thus overwriting existing files. See this link for details:-
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2682343

That should do it.

lessram
25th May 2009, 16:25
i downloaded the files from post 1 and extracted them to a new, formatted (tried fat and fat32) 2gig sd card in a card reader. then i added the United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2305 map folder but was unable to patch the map using easyusetool. tried the 'runmeforallautomatic' option but got nowhere. kept saying that no meta txt file, when there was/is and no list of drives was showing. should the sd card be put into the tomtom or can the patching be done through the card reader? any ideas as to what i am doing wrong please? help would be greatly appreciated.

Did you also try to use Albert's Easy Activator (http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=339157) ?
(don't forget to push the update meta button)
IMHO it's not as good looking as BenBBS, but easier to use because you see where what is going wrong. BenBBS is great (just one click) as long as every thing is available and set okay. If it goes wrong it's more difficult to see what's causing it.
And even though easyusetool was the first and great; easyusetool is pretty complicated to use (when you're not used to it)

I patch the maps through a cardreader so yes it is possible.

kevpc
25th May 2009, 18:47
tnx for all help and advice given so far, guys. am using the TTUser SE_Navcore.8.413.1237.Basicpack and SE_ttsystem.8.413.1237
well, i dont know what i've done or how i've done it, but the only things i cant get to work atm, or so it seems, is speech for directions and warnings and the ALG/IQ. sound is there when turning tomtom on, so must be something else. tried copying voices and LoquendoTTS folders from old card to new card but no go. any idea what i have to do now please? also, strange that the United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2305 maps/meta dont work. maybe the meta txt file is wrong but not clever enough to work it out or how to correct it. are the IQ and ALG and voices supposed to work with maps 2306 and navcore 8.413.1237?

lessram
25th May 2009, 19:21
, but the only things i cant get to work atm, or so it seems, is speech for directions and warnings

On the TTOne V2 do not use the standard POI warning sounds !!!
These will crash and result in a quiet TomTom untill restart.
If you want to use POI warning sounds; create them yourself; ogg 22khz Mono. Or use the one(s) you can find here on the forum somewhere (I uploaded a GONG_x3 (http://www.ipmart-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=490569&d=1240342146))
Add voices simply by connecting your TomTom to Home and choose the desired voice.

and the ALG/IQ.
ALG/IQ only works on specific map numbers. Don't know which version you should have for your map. It is not because of your used Meta.
Check this table;
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2673778&postcount=1

kevpc
25th May 2009, 20:20
sorry lessram. being thick again i guess.i only have the 'kate' voice showing in tomtom, but she wont speak directions or announce speed cameras. i haven't, as far as i know, enabled any beeps etc in poi. looks like the maps i tried before, 2305, work with the IQ and ALG, but as i said previously, the meta that came with that map and maybe the map itself, were no good and i have no idea how to correct them. when i tried it, i used this meta for 2305:
12 B8 A0 32 45 06 1E E5 63 E3 01 18 DF 8E E2 1E United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland-35.meta ; United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2305

and this one for the 2306 map:
2F 9A 28 A2 F6 B4 9D 1F E8 2A C7 1A 48 A2 27 AA United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland-33.meta ; United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2306

would be interested to know what's wrong with it

kevpc
25th May 2009, 21:48
lessram, can see which maps enable what features from the chart you linked me to,tnx. need the 2305 uk &roi maps but those i have dont work. just wondered if the ones i downloaded are broken or something. would like to have the speech option which is missing from the 2306 maps if possible so wondered if anyone using 2305 without problems?

scottydog90
25th May 2009, 22:05
You need to extract the English Kate .cab file (folder EnglishGB) to the LoquendoTTS directory on your TomTom and then recopy the original LoquendoTTS folder from the Navcore download into the folder on your TT thus overwriting existing files. See this link for details:-
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2682343

That should do it.

thanx muscles019...it works flawlessly, and on a class 2 4gb sd card as well..
respect and i've hit karma......:urtheman:

lessram
26th May 2009, 00:48
lessram, can see which maps enable what features from the chart you linked me to,tnx. need the 2305 uk &roi maps but those i have dont work. just wondered if the ones i downloaded are broken or something. would like to have the speech option which is missing from the 2306 maps if possible so wondered if anyone using 2305 without problems?

Kevpc try to install a different voice. Some voices don't work on TTOne V2. I assume that's because of the stereo encoding (?)

kevpc
26th May 2009, 01:03
hi again. i tried to add the 2305 maps folder and used alberts patcher. as far as i can tell all went ok. however, i still couldn't get voices to work. i put my old card back in and voices work fine. dont know if it's something i am/not doing or whether it's the new navcore or maps. anyway, gonna give up for now. maybe try again tomorrow. format the card and start again with just the 2305 maps. found alberts patcher pretty straight forward so will go with that. if i get anywhere, will let you know. appreciate all the help and advice, but think i am just not doing things correctly so out of luck for updating. shame, as the new display itself looked clearer and there are extra options as well. if i could get the voices working for directions and warnings and the ALG/IQ i would be well happy!

LaurentG
26th May 2009, 10:12
On the TTOne V2 do not use the standard POI warning sounds !!!
These will crash and result in a quiet TomTom untill restart.


I'm using them without any problem, anyway :confused:
TT One v2 + Navcore 8.413

vincentn1981
26th May 2009, 10:53
@ LaurentG and Lessram

I also use the standard warning sounds on the 8.413 and I have never had a crash at all. Using these warning sounds does not result in to hanging of the sound anymore, but this was only the case on the crappy 8.203(4) version.

kevpc
26th May 2009, 12:43
will re-check that the POI sounds are turned off and try it. atm i have gone back to the old card as it works. just that i would have liked to use the more up-to-date system etc. if that aint gonna happen, it aint gonna happen. will see. tnx guys. will post back later

muscles019
26th May 2009, 13:31
thanx muscles019...it works flawlessly, and on a class 2 4gb sd card as well..
respect and i've hit karma......:urtheman:

Glad to hear it. You're welcome!

kevpc
26th May 2009, 14:31
right guys. anyone got the patience of a saint and prepared to do more walking thru with me?
i just formatted the sd card for the umpteenth time, extracted the se navcore and ttsystem files v8.413.1237 on to the card, then the map folder United_Kingdom_and_Republic_of_Ireland_830_2305. in that folder are 17 files plus the meta .txt file. i used Albert's Activator (many tnx for making this) and let it do it's thing. i then put the zip folder on the card with the latest post codes i could find. there is no 'voices' folder on the card. inside the LoquendoTTS folder, there are just 2 folders, 'bin' (containing 2 SO files, libLoqTTS7.so and LTTS7AudioBoard.so) and 'lib' (containing 1 SO file, LoqAudioBoard.so). i have not put any speed cams in the map folder as yet.
so, what files/folders do i now need and where do they need to go on the card to get the 'directions/distance' and 'warning/speed camera' voices to work?

and many tnx to all for help so far. at least i have learnt how to use Albert's Activator now, which i couldn't before.

muscles019
26th May 2009, 15:29
First things first. Take the voices folder from a previous Navcore version that you have used and copy that folder to the root of your SD card. Next create a "sounds" folder in the root of the SD card and place your UK Camera warning sounds in that folder. (assume you are using PocketGPSWorld database).
Once that's done go into Manage POI on your TomTom and associate the appropriate sounds to the individual camera warning. I shortened the names of the sound files so that I could easily identify each file by name e.g. gatso20.ogg; mobile30.ogg; specs40.ogg etc.
See previous posts in this thread to see how to sort your LoquendoTTS voices out.
Let us know how you get on!

kevpc
26th May 2009, 16:03
tnx for reply, muscles019. have copied the 'voices' folder to the new card and created a 'sounds' folder. however, when i checked in the old card, there is nothing in the 'sounds' folder at all, totally empty. in the old 'voices' folder, there are 4 VIF files, each having it's own 'Recovered File Fragments' dll.

muscles019
26th May 2009, 16:11
You don't say which UK Speed Camera database you are using. If PGPSW, then place sound files from their website (pocketgpsworld.com) into the sounds folder and follow my earlier instructions.

kevpc
26th May 2009, 17:06
sorry mate. yes, i am using the pgps speed cams. just for info, with old card, i get something like 'warning-gatso camera ahead' or similar, which is what i dont get now, coupled with 'at the end of the road, turn left' or similar instructions which i also dont get now. before formatting card tody, i could see the images of 'kate' etc but when i chose' say, jane or tim, wastold i had to choose a computer voice or i would not get warnings etc. still didn't get them whether i chose kate, jane or tim. made no difference. just so you know what i am not getting, but want if possible.

kevpc
26th May 2009, 17:24
not meaning to question your info, muscles019, you obviously have forgotten much more about tomtom than i will ever know (that's meant as a compliment to you). on the pgps website for the voices downloads, it says to put them straight in the map folder. as you already know, doesn't take much to confuse an idiot like me. just want to be sure where to put them, that's all.

kevpc
26th May 2009, 20:32
had to go out but gonna try the files in both places just to be sure. next thing is how to get the directions etc working?

kevpc
26th May 2009, 21:40
put the files into the 'sound' folder as you said muscles019 and now got 'gatso ahead' type warning. also got directions using 'jane' voice. only thing i dont have now is 'kate' computer voice which i assume i need to get spoken street names etc. as i dont have any sound files in the sound folder of my old card, i discovered that i also have tomtom speed cameras as well (had forgotten). is that why i get gatso warnings with that card? just out of curiosity, how are the tomtom speed cameras enabled on the 2305 maps and this navcore? i cant find a 'tomtom services' or similar option.
with only having the 2 folders stated above in the LoquendoTTS folder, what do i still need and how do i get sounds working there?

you guys here are superb. without your help i would have been totally lost. cant thank you enough. do hope you can tell me how to enable the other couple of bits i would like to have working.

nofences
27th May 2009, 00:25
You need to extract the English Kate .cab file (folder EnglishGB) to the LoquendoTTS directory on your TomTom and then recopy the original LoquendoTTS folder from the Navcore download into the folder on your TT thus overwriting existing files. See this link for details:-
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2682343

That should do it.

Ok, the link you sent is just another question, could I get a little more clarification. Which version of TTS files go on this device? I also cannot get the computer voices working in this dump, I tried uzipping the cab files from ver 7 Kate to the LoquendosTTS folder but she still aint talking. Wondering if someone can point me in the right direction.

Jason

vincentn1981
27th May 2009, 00:49
@ nofences

Use this tutorial:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=352903
its very good and up to date. For TT One V2 you hsould only change the emulation to x40light.

nofences
27th May 2009, 02:01
@ nofences

Use this tutorial:
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=352903
its very good and up to date. For TT One V2 you hsould only change the emulation to x40light.

Thanks for the link, but that wasnt the info I was looking for. I am well aware of how to install the Navcore and all the accessories, I was simply trying to figure out how to get LoquendoTTS voices to work on a TTOne. I was able to figure it out, for those that need help...

You need to copy the full sized uncompressed voices from a Go x10 series. They are around 200 mb each. You can find them on this forum, however I already had them. Copied them to my device and they are woking great now.

vincentn1981
27th May 2009, 12:00
@ nofences it is quite clearly explained by grard31 there how you should install the LoquendoTTS voices and also more. I noticed that after you have one thing working you ask the next thing you found out can also work. This is not a problem of course, however the tutorial of grard31 is really explaining it all in a step by step process and I think this is better for you. At the moment I think you have everything working, so no more problems, I hope...

kevpc
28th May 2009, 12:45
anyone able to advise me as to the questions in my last post please? do i have to patch something else to get sound working on speedcams like they were on my old card? tried to do the LoquendoTTS bit, still dont work for me. as i only have 2 folders as previously stated in the LoquendoTTS folder, what else do i need to do to get that working? dont understand. thick, i'm afraid.

Many TIA

Fred Savage
28th May 2009, 12:51
I finally received my new Class 6 SD-Card (Transcend). Unfortunately it did not solve the problem: I am currently using the Western and Central Europe 2GB map, the uncompressed German voice Katrin and I am running on x40light2 emulation. It works well with Katrin as long as there is no need to pronounce a street name or highway exit. But as soon as this is about to come up, movement on the map freezes, voice keeps silent for a period of about 10-20 seconds (depending on how "complicated" the street name is) then it is finally pronounced and everything works fine fine again until the next street name comes up.

Needless to say that when the street name is finally pronounced, I have already turned on that street seconds ago. The class 6 card helped a bit since the lag used to be much longer than a couple of seconds but still navigation with Katrin is useless, I switched back to non-computer voice Lisa which of course works perfectly.

If there is anything else I could try, I would appreciates some hints.

This allows the new navcore to create a file in the root of your sd card: ttgo.bak
This allows TTHome to recognise your device as an "original" with version 9.703
That reminds me. As well as setconfig.txt in your config folder, you need to place a text file "version.txt" with the following within it:
A:7903
B:9183
That should sort you out OK. Let me know how you get on once you get hold of the class 6 card!
:goodluck:

vincentn1981
28th May 2009, 12:58
@ Fred Savage have you sued the switches: runclean, rm and btoff? They could help to improve you LoquendoTTS smoothness.

I have only run a demo with my TToneV2 with dutch loquendoTTS big voices and it seems to work reasonable. However I haven't tried it on the road yet. I have tried it before and then I switched back to VocalizerTTS voices (USA) because Loquendo was stalling the device so much that it was unworkable for me as well.
Needless to say I am a little bit sceptic if it will really work that well as muscles019 is saying, but before I really tested it on the road I cannot give my opinion on it.

Fred Savage
28th May 2009, 13:21
@ Fred Savage have you sued the switches: runclean, rm and btoff? They could help to improve you LoquendoTTS smoothness.

Currently my setconfig file only contains
model:x40light2
runclean

I will try and include rm and btoff, thanks for the hint.

vincentn1981
28th May 2009, 13:29
I have to say as well that I use the more newer version 8.413 navcore.

markham
28th May 2009, 18:54
Hi Vincent! I am using 8.413 and map North America 830 and it's not as smooth as it used to be when it had the original software.
I got a TT One v3 to upgrade it and I compared it with mine. The original TT One v3 was navigating smoother and also when turning right or left it was ahead of my TT One XLS.
I am running 8.413 in x40light3 mode. Any idea?
Thanks

vincentn1981
29th May 2009, 10:20
you can try deleting ccmap from the Outsourced.bin folder. However this will increase memory usage. First I would recommend trying the switches runclean or rm or both combined. x40light, x40light2 you could also still try. Also disable zoom in, by going to x40 emulation and disable it there, if you go back to x40light emulation zoom in will be disabled.

Fred Savage
29th May 2009, 11:07
I have to say as well that I use the more newer version 8.413 navcore.

The switches rm and btoff indeed increased the performance of my TT One, navigation still is off a bit off though. Does upgrading from Navcore 8.410 to 8.413 really improve performance ?

Are there any other switches that might increase my One's performance
some more or different tweaks I could try ? :thanks:

vincentn1981
29th May 2009, 11:27
You also tried runclean? And switch off zoom in/out at insections?

For the rest increasing performance will decrease the stuff you have now, like switching off Lane Guidance images, etc. That's probably not what you want.

pinheirolace
30th May 2009, 02:19
I have to say as well that I use the more newer version 8.413 navcore.

I am using this as well and my ONE v3 (4N00.0042R) works (to me) very well. Not so much delay. Thanks to TTUSER and others I use this
setconfig.txt

model:x40light2
bton

runclean
delgns
delmap
noqfixdel

I use Loquendo TTS voices including reading street and road names.
and:
- using SD card Kingston 50x 1gb and Iberia 830_2305 map with radars works very well, free RAM is around 7,0 mb
- using SD card DANE-ELEC HC 4gb and WCE_830_2305 map and radars and the free RAM decrease a litle beet to 6.0 mb but with this free memmory and readings roads and city street names to me is a'' must'' I like this resolution speed with this old device.

Thanks

stezo2k
31st May 2009, 12:32
works flawlessly on my tomtom go 300, great work there mate :)

kevpc
4th June 2009, 17:41
well guys. after much trying of differnt suggestions, i still cant get spoken street names etc. not too much of a problem, as not used to having them anyway. however, what i do find strange and frustrating is that i dont have a tomtom services option, therefore cant enable or disable tomtom speed cams and cant get tomtom home to work. when i connected tomtom to pc, it immediately had to update home or told me it couldn't connect. would like to try them to see if they work. afterwards, it said i couldn't use the maps uk & ire 2305 on this device. anyone suggest why that is?

Greg1
18th June 2009, 02:36
For those having problems with loss of sound when using custom sounds or inbuilt sounds. I tracked it down to incompattable high rate sound files which cause this problem.

To fix this you can use this very handy ogg file converter I found to convert existing ogg or wave sound files to compatable ogg sound files.

http://www.rarewares.org/ogg-oggdropxpd.php

I used the generic version to convert incompatible ogg -> wav -> compatible ogg file.

The following sound file specs work fine. No more loss of sound. Anything higher will cause the sound loss problem.

OGG.
22050 hz
50 kbps
1 channel mono.

vincentn1981
18th June 2009, 09:56
@Greg1 Lessram also already found this out and gave the exact same solution.
Anyway it has all become obsolete because there is a newer and much better navcore build, namely the 8.413, which does not have any of these problems. I really don't see why people still use this old 8.410 build, there is really no use anymore.

alexdeluxe
21st June 2009, 03:33
:thanks: for this great job!
is working wonderfull with my tt-one-v2:D

My question, there is also a Dump Version with Navcore 8.413 giving?

Thanks a lot for answer´s

cheers
Alex

mobilemobb
21st June 2009, 12:13
yeah a working dump for the lastest verison of navcore 8.413 would be great.

vincentn1981
21st June 2009, 12:59
No ther isn't, but it is sooooo easy to do that there is really no use in using a dump, with possibilities for all kind of problems.

jarkita
21st June 2009, 22:29
yeah a working dump for the lastest verison of navcore 8.413 would be great.

like this one?
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2710757&postcount=509

alexdeluxe
21st June 2009, 23:44
like this one?
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showpost.php?p=2710757&postcount=509

This was an BackUp for TT-GO and not for TT-ONE:nod:

vincentn1981
21st June 2009, 23:48
Note this is a dump for a go 730. It will probably work on a TToneV2 as well, except LoquendoTTS will not work. It is better to just make your own system by reading the readmenot.txt provided by TTuser in the specific SENavCore and installing it the way you want to then using a dump. A dump is first off all mostly made for one specifc system, you are dependent on updates from the dump maker and furthermore you loose your flexibility to set up the system the way you want to.