If you could get the answer to any mystery of the world events/locations/secrets, which one would it be?

Examples would be;

Does UFO really exist?
How was the Pyramids of Egypt build?
Was the City of Atlantis really just a legend?
Is Elvis really alive?

some really mysterious questions here that nobody has a clear anwser yet.
but my question is: why do people still spam on forums? :twisted:

some really mysterious questions here that nobody has a clear anwser yet.
but my question is: why do people still spam on forums? :twisted:

thats a very interesting and quite mysterious question :lol:

This a fair enough topic . After all is off topic :-) for me would be is there a form of life after death ? Do we exist after our body dies ? I am not religious so view this question mostly in a scientific way though i do not discount the possibility of a god or god type deity either ! Aliens must be true due to the sheer vastness of space. Maybe they have visited us or not but somewhere intelligent life must exist i feel :-) somewhere ...Edit.. Elvis has left the building :wink:

why was I born?

bcoz u hav something to do in this world
;-)

does it really got something like TIME MACHINE..??
does John Tirtor really ture..?
does all he saids true/??
..??

What's the meaning of life?
Is there a perfect website?

The goal of life is just to be prepared for a better life in the other world.I know U know!!!

What if there is no Other world and this is the only life we got?

SO U HAV TO ENJOY LIFE
HEHEHEHE
;-)

so man will never die if there iz no other life after present life..impossible..prepare for after death life..be sincere wid everone..be responsible for your deedz..be honest to everone even wid yerself..be in patience alwayz..respect other...feel the hurtz of other people..bottom line alwayz think positive...thiz all say can prepare you for after death life if u take it into practical way

...thiz all say can prepare you for after death life if u take it into practical way

practical way, is it by behind ? :lol:

do there exictes any soulmates ( for me?)
will there be a girl who will love me as much as I do
these days I have been dumped, I just don't feel good

How is it possible that so many people do not believe in God

do you have any explanation bout this...????

Tibetan Stone Discs

In 1938 high in the mountains of BayanKara-Ula, on the borders of China and Tibet a team of archaeologists were conducting a very detailed routine survey of a series of interlocking caves.
Their interests had been excited by the discovery of lines of neatly arranged graves which contained the skeletons of what must have been a race of human beings. They appeared to have spindly bodies and large overdeveloped heads.

At first it had been thought that the caves had been the home of a hitherto unknown species of ape. But as the species seemed to bury its dead they eliminated an ape race.

While studying the skeletons one of the members of the team stumbled on a large round stone disc half buried in the dust on the floor of the cave.

The disc looked like an Stone Age record. There was a hole in the center of and a fine spiral groove that is a continuous spiralling line of closely written characters.

No one understood the meanings of the message. The disc was labeled and filed away among other finds in the area. For 20 years many experts in Peking tried to translate the disc.
Finally Dr. Tsum Um Nui broke the code and started to decipher the "speaking grooves". The Peking academy of Pre-History forbade him to publish his findings.

In 1965 716 more grooved stone discs were uncovered in the same caves.

They told the story of a "space probe" by the inhabitants of another planet who came to the Baya-Kara-Ula mountain range. They had crash landed. Their peaceful intentions had been misinterpreted. Many of them had been hunted down and killed by members of the Han tribe, who lived in the neighboring caves.

They referred to themselves as the Dropas. They said they came down from the clouds in their space craft. It crashed landed in remote and inaccessible mountains. There was no way to build a new ship.

Legend in the area spoke of small gaunt yellow faced men who came from the clouds long ago. The men had huge bulging heads and puny bodies. They were so ugly they were hunted down and killed. This description is similar to the bodies found in the caves.

On the walls of the caves archaeolgists found crude pictures of the rising Sun, the Moon, unidentifiable stars and the earth all joined together by lines of pea-sized dots. The cave drawings have been dated around 12,000 years ago.

The cave area is still inhabited by 2 semi-troglodyte tribes known as the Hans and the Dropas. These tribes are odd looking in appearance. They are frail and stunted in growth averaging only about 5 feet in height. They are neither typically Chinese nor Tibetan.

In Russia several of the discs were tested. The discs were found to contain large amounts of cobalt and other metallic substances. When placed on a special turnrable they vibrated or hummed in an unusual rhythm as thought an electric charge was passing through them. It is as if they formed some part of an electrical circuit.

any comment bout this article...???


A NEW SPECIES ?
(OF PRE-ADAMITE HUMAN)

Fossils from the Gran Dolina railway cut in northern Spain's Sierra Atapuerca are from a hitherto unknown species of early human, according to the site's excavator José Bermúdez de Castro of the National Museum of Natural Sciences, Madrid, and his colleagues. They named the newly identified species Homo antecessor (from the Latin for pioneer or explorer), and claim that it is directly ancestral to both modern humans and Neandertals.

The Gran Dolina fossils--nearly 80 postcranial, cranial, facial, and mandibular bones as well as teeth of at least six individuals--were excavated between 1994 and 1996 (see "The Peopling of Eurasia," ARCHAEOLOGY, January/February 1996). A key specimen is a partial facial skeleton of a juvenile, estimated to be ten to 11 years old, recovered in 1995. The fossils exhibit both seemingly modern features, such as sunken cheekbones with a horizontal rather than vertical ridge where upper teeth attach and a projecting nose and midface, and more primitive ones, including prominent brow ridges and premolars with multiple roots. The level in which the fossils were found, TD6, is dated by a reversal in the earth's magnetic field to more than 780,000 years ago. So far this level has been exposed only in a test pit of six square meters, but the excavators are confident that many more human fossils will be found when the larger excavations reach the level some years in the future.

Traditionally, Middle Pleistocene Europeans were considered to be an early or archaic Homo sapiens form that was transitional between Homo erectus and modern humans. More recently it has been suggested that European hominids (represented by the fossils from Mauer, Vèrtêsszôllos, Bilzingsleben, Arago, and Petralona together with African ones (including fossils from Bodo, Broken Hill 1, and Dali) can be clasified as a distinct species, Homo heidelbergensis, that is the stem for both Neandertals and modern humans. (The name heidelbergensis comes from the Mauer mandible, which was found near Heidelberg in 1907.)

The preceding phase of human evolution is debated. Some scholars have labeled the 1.6-million-year-old skeleton of a boy found at Nariokotome, Kenya, and other remains as Homo ergaster, a species separate from Homo erectus. These scholars see Homo ergaster as the ancestor of Homo heidelbergensis, which developed into modern humans in Africa and into Neandertals in Europe and Southwest Asia. For them, Homo erectus is to the side of the modern human pedigree. Others believe the African fossils designated Homo ergaster are really Homo erectus, and that African fossils (such as the skull from Bodo, Ethiopia) with ties to modern humans are Homo heidelbergensis, which is descended from Homo erectus and is ancestral to both modern humans and Neandertals.

If the Gran Dolina fossils do represent a new species, the human family tree must be revised. According to Bermúdez de Castro and his colleagues, a few dental and cranial features suggest Homo antecessor is close to Homo ergaster. The Gran Dolina excavators further argue that while Homo antecessor has similarities to later Homo heidelbergensis, the ancestor of the Neandertals, it has more traits in common with modern humans than does Homo heidelbergensis. In their view, Homo ergaster gave rise the Homo antecessor in Africa; about one million years ago Homo antecessor spread via the Middle East to Europe, including Gran Dolina. In Europe Homo antecessor evolved into Homo heidelbergensis and then to Neandertals. In Africa Homo antecessor evolved into Homo sapiens via such fossils as the Bodo skull and a cranium from Kabwe, Zambia. In this scenario both Homo erectus and Homo heidelbergensis are off the line leading to modern humans.

"We realized right away that the face was modern-looking," says Juan Luis Arsuaga of the Universidad Complutense, Madrid. "We tried to put the fossils in Homo heidelbergensis, but they were so different that we could not." But many paleoanthropologists--Philip Rightmire of the State University of New York, Christopher Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London, Jean-Jacques Hublin of the National Center for Scientific Research in Paris, and the University of Michigan's Milford Wolpoff--have expressed reservations about the designation of a new species and the revision of the evolutionary tree. They suggest that "modern" features are in fact juvenile traits that might not be present in adults and they say that more evidence, especially from adults, is needed before the interpretation can be accepted.

Antonio Rosas of the National Museum of Natural Sciences in Madrid counters that some adult fragments from Gran Dolina do show modern traits, including the hollowed cheekbones, which do not appear in either the earlier Nariokotome boy (often identified as Homo ergaster) or later fossils from the Sima de los Huesos at Atapuerca, which date from about 300,000 years ago and are considered to be Homo heidelbergensis. This may indicate that modern human midfacial and subnasal morphology is retention of a juvenile pattern that developed in Homo antecessor, which was not yet present in Homo ergaster and never developed in Homo heidelbergensis or Neandertals. If so, this bolsters the identification of Homo antecessor as a distinct species and as the direct forebear of both modern humans and Homo heidelbergensis.

"This controversy is welcome," says Arsuaga, "because it will help us to understand human evolution better." There are, he says, "two main groups of paleoanthropologists today. Those who consider that human evolution is like a ladder with only one species at a time--Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens--will never accept more species. The other group sees human evolution as a tree with many branches. Some authors think that Homo erectus represents a separate branch and that Neandertals and modern humans are two separate branches with a common ancestor. This common ancestor used to be called 'archaic' Homo sapiens, but now many people believe that Neandertals are a different species (Homo neanderthalensis) from ourselves. So the common ancestor can no longer be called Homo sapiens. We agree in all of this, but the common ancestor is now called Homo heidelbergensis, after the Mauer mandible. Our opinion is that Homo heidelbergensis is a Middle Pleistocene European species, which is ancestral only to Neandertals and not to modern humans. The last common ancestor to Neandertals and modern humans is older, and it is the newly named species Homo antecessor (of Lower Pleistocene age). We have only placed the common ancestor slightly back in time. What is important are the Dolina fossils and not the species we have named, and among the newly published fossils there is a wonderful partial face that has much to tell about human evolution."--MARK ROSE

Who Built the Pyramids?


The question of who built the pyramids, and how, has long been debated by Egyptologists and historians. Standing at the base of the pyramids at Giza it is hard to believe that any of these enormous monuments could have been built in one pharaoh's lifetime. Herodotus, the Greek historian who wrote in the 5th century B.C., 500 years before Christ, is the earliest known chronicler and historian of the Egyptian Pyramid Age.

By his accounts, the labor force that built Khufu totalled more than 100,000 people. But Herodotus visited the pyramids 2,700 years after they were built and his impressive figure was an educated guess, based on hearsay. Modern Egyptologists believe the real number is closer to 20,000.

Mark Lehner and Zahi Hawass have been trying to solve the puzzle of where the 20,000 - 30,000 laborers who built the pyramids lived. Once they find the workers' living area, they can learn more about the workforce, their daily lives, and perhaps where they came from. Mark has been excavating the bakeries that presumably fed this army of workers, and Zahi has been excavating the cemetery for this grand labor force. It is believed that Giza housed a skeleton crew of workers who labored on the pyramids year round. But during the late summer and early autumn months, during the annual flooding of the fields with water from the annual innundation of the Nile flooded the fields, a large labor force would appear at Giza to put in time on the pyramids. These farmers and local villagers gathered at Giza to work for their god kings, to build their monuments to the hereafter. This would ensure their own afterlife and would also benefit the future and prosperity of Egypt as a whole. They may well have been willing workers, a labor force working for ample rations, for the benefit of man, king, and country.

The following interviews with Mark Lehner and Zahi Hawass address the controversial question of who actually built the pyramids at Giza:

MARK LEHNER, Archaeologist, Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, and Harvard Semitic Museum

NOVA: In your extensive work and research at Giza have you ever once questioned whether humans built the pyramids?

LEHNER: No. But have I ever questioned whether they had divine or super intelligent inspiration? I first went to Egypt in 1972 and ended up living there 13 years.
I was imbued with ideas of Atlantis and Edgar Cayce and so on. So I went over, starting from that point of view, but everything I saw told me, day by day, year by year, that they were very human and the marks of humanity are everywhere on them. And you see there's this curious reversal where sometimes New Age theorists say that Egyptologists and archaeologists are denigrating the ancient culture. They sometimes put up a scarecrow argument that we say they were primitive. And the New Agers sometimes want to say these were very sophisticated, technologically sophisticated people who built these things, they were not primitive. Well, actually there's a certain irony here, because they say they were very sophisticated technological civilizations and societies that built the pyramids and the Sphinx, and yet they weren't the ones that we find. So to me, it's these suggestions that are really denigrating the people whose names, bodies, family relationships, tools, bakeries that we actually find.

Everything that I have found convinces me more and more that indeed it is this society that built the Sphinx and the pyramids. Everytime I go back to Giza my respect increases for those people and that society, that they could do it. You see, to me it's even more fascinating that they did this. And that by doing this they contributed something to the human career and its overall development actually. Rather than just saying, you know copping out and saying, there's no way they could have done this. I think that denigrates the people whose evidence we actually find.

NOVA: Herodotus, the Greek historian, wrote that 100,000 workers built the pyramids and modern Egyptologists come up with a figure more like 20,000 workers. Can you explain that for us?

LEHNER: Yeah, well, first of all Herodotus just claims he was told that. He said, 100,000 men working in three shifts, which raises some doubt, I guess if you read it in the original Greek as to whether it's three shifts of 100,000 men each or whether you subdivide, you know, the 100,000 men. But my own approach to this stems to some extent from "This Old Pyramid." ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) You know, the popular film that was done by NOVA [where we attempted to build a small pyramid at Giza]. And certainly we didn't replicate ancient technology 100 percent because there's no way we could replicate the entire ancient society that surrounded this technology. So our stones were delivered by a flatbed truck as opposed to barges. You know, we didn't reconstruct the barges that brought the 60-ton granite blocks from Aswan. So basically what we were doing is, as we say in the film and in the accompanying book, that we're setting up the ability to test particular tools, techniques and operations, without testing the entire building project.

One of the things that most impressed me, though, was the fact that in 21 days, 12 men in bare feet, living out in the eastern desert, opened a new quarry in about the time we needed stone for our NOVA Pyramid, and in 21 days they quarried 186 stones. Now they did it with an iron winch, you know, an iron cable and a winch that pulled the stone away from the quarry wall, and all their tools were iron.

But other than that they did it by hand. So I said, taking just a raw figure, if 12 men in bare feet -- they lived in a lean-to shelter, day and night out there -- if they can quarry 186 stones in 21 days, let's do the simple math and see, just in a very raw simplistic calculation, how many men were required to deliver 340 stones a day, which is what you would have to deliver to the Khufu Pyramid to build it in 20 years. And it comes out somewhere between -- I've got this all written down -- but it comes out in the hundreds of men. Now I was bothered by the iron tools, like 400 men, 4 to 500 men. I was bothered by the iron tools, especially the iron winch that pulled the stone away from the quarry walls, so I said, let's put in a team of men, of about say 20 men, so that 12 men become 32. And now let's run the equation. Well, it turns out that even if you give great leeway for the iron tools, all 340 stones could have been quarried in a day by something like 1,200 men. And that's quarried locally at Giza. You see most of the stone is local stone.

So then because of our mapping and because of our approach where we looked at, what is the shape of the ground here, where's the quarry, where is the pyramid, let's see, where would the ramp have run, we could come up with a figure of how many men it would take to schlep the stones up to the pyramid. Now it's often said that the stones were delivered at a rate of one every two minutes or so. And New Agers sometimes point that out as an impossibility for the Egyptians of Khufu's day.

But the stones didn't go in one after another, you see. And you can actually work out the coefficient of friction or glide on a slick surface, how much an average stone weighed, how many men it would take to pull that. And in a NOVA experiment we found that 12 men could pull a 1.5 ton block over a slick surface with great ease. And then you could come up with very conservative estimates as to the number of men it would take to pull an average size block the distance from the quarry, which we know, to the pyramid. And you could even factor in different configurations of the ramp which would give you a different length.

Well, working in such ways, and I challenge anybody to join in the challenge, it comes out that you can actually get the delivery that you need. You need 340 stones delivered you see, every day, and that's 34 stones every hour in a ten hour day, right. Thirty-four stones can get delivered by x number of gangs of 20 men, and it comes out to something like 2,000, somewhere in that area. We can go over the exact figures. So now we've got 1200 men in the quarry which is a very generous estimate, 2,000 men delivering. And so that's 3,200. OK, how about men cutting the stones and setting them? Well, it's different between the core stones which were set with great slop factor, and the casing stones which were custom cut and set, one to another, with so much accuracy that you can't get a knife blade in between the joints, so there's a difference there. But let's gloss over that for a moment.

One of the things the NOVA experiment showed me that no book could, is just what is it like to have a 2 or 3-ton block -- how many men can get their hands on it? Well, you can't have 50 men working on one block, you see. And you can only get about four or five, six guys at most working on a block, say two on levers, you know, cutters and so on. And you know, you put pivots under it and as few as two or three guys can pivot it around if you put a hard cobble under it. There are all these tricks they know. But it's just impossible to get too many men on a block. But you figure out how many stones have to be set to keep up with this rate, to get in with 20 years. And it actually comes up 5,000 or less men, including the stone setters. Now the stone setting gets a bit complicated because of the casing, and you have one team working from each corner, and another team working in the middle of each face for the casing and then the core. And I'm going to gloss over that.

But the challenge is out there: 5,000 men to actually do the building and the quarrying and the schlepping from the local quarry. This doesn't count the men cutting the granite and shipping it from Aswan or the men over in Tura. OK, so that increases the numbers somewhat....And that's what things like the ancient technologies series ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) done by NOVA really bring home, I think. No, we're not recreating ancient society, and ancient pyramid building 100 percent.

And probably not even 60 percent. But we are showing some nuts and bolts that are very useful and insightful, far more than all the armchair theorizing.

Now just recently I was contacted by the construction firm DMJM -- the initials stand for Daniel, Mann, Johnson & Mendenhall -- it's one of the largest construction firms, they're working right now on the Pentagon. And one of the senior vice presidents decided to take on for a formal address for fellow engineers, a program management study of the Great Pyramid. So these are not guys lifting boilers in Manhattan, these are senior civil engineers with one of the largest construction corporations in the United States. And I'm sure they'd be happy to go on record with their study which looked at what they call critical path analysis. What do you need to get the job done? What tools did they have? And they contacted me and other Egyptologists and we gave them some references. Here's what we know about their tools, the inclined plane, the lever and so on. And without any secret sophistication or hidden technology, just basically what archaeologists say, this is what these folks had. DIM JIM came up with 5,000, 4 to 5,000 men could build the Great Pyramid within a 20 to 40 year period. And they have very specific calculations on every single aspect, from the gravel, for the ramps, to baking the bread. So I throw that out there, not because that's gospel truth, but because reasoned construction engineers, who plan great projects like bridges and buildings today and earthworks and so on, look at the Great Pyramid and don't opt out for lost civilizations, extraterrestrials, or hidden technologies. No, they say it's a very impressive job, extraordinary for the people who lived then and there, but it could be done. They are human monuments.

NOVA: You've made reference to inscriptions at Giza that indicate who built the pyramids. What do the inscriptions say?

LEHNER: One of the most compelling pieces of evidence we have is graffiti on ancient stone monuments in places that they didn't mean to be shown. Like on foundations when we dig down below the floor level, up in the relieving chambers above the King's chamber, and in many monuments of the Old Kingdom, temples, the Sun temples, other pyramids. Well, the graffiti gives us a picture of organization where crews, where a gang of workmen was organized into two crews. And the crews were subdivided into five phyles. The word phyles is spelled p-h-y-l-e-s. It's the Greek word for tribe. The Egyptian word is za. They were divided into five za's. In later times when the Greeks came and in bilingual inscriptions, when somebody was translating za into Greek they used the word phyles, the word for tribe, which is extremely interesting actually.

Were these militaristic kinds of conscripts? Certainly they weren't slaves. Could they actually have been natural communities of the Nile Valley kind of contributing like the way the Inca build their bridges and so on? .....So the phyles then are subdivided into divisions. And the divisions are identified by single hieroglyphs with names that mean things like endurance, perfection, strong. OK, so how do we know this -- you come to a block of stone in the relieving chambers above the Great Pyramid. And first of all you see this cartouche of a King and then some scrawls all in red paint after it. That's the gang name. And in the Old Kingdom in the time of the Pyramids of Giza, the gangs were named after kings. So for example, we have a name, compounded with the name of Menkaure, and it seems to translate 'the drunks or the drunkards of Menkaure.' There's one that's well attested, actually in the relieving chambers above the Great Pyramid, the Friends of Khufu gang, the Drunks of Menkaura gang, and then you have the green phyles and then the powerful ones. None of this sounds like slavery, does it?

And in fact it gets more intriguing. Because in certain monuments you find the name of one gang on one side of the monument and another gang, we assume competing on the other side of the monument. You find that to some extent in the temple, the Pyramid temple of Menkaure. It's as though these gangs are competing. So from this evidence we deduce that there was a labor force that was assigned to respective crew gang phyles and divisions.

NOVA: Where did the gangs come from? Were they local people or did they travel from afar?

LEHNER: There's some evidence to suggest that people were rotated in and out of the raw labor force. So that you could be a young man in a village say in middle Egypt, and you had never seen more than a few hundred people in your village, maybe at market day or something. And the King's men come and it may not have been entirely coercion, but it seems that everybody owed a labor tax.


We don't know if it was entirely coercive, or if in fact, part of it was a natural community donation as in the Incan Empire for example, to building projects where they had a great party and so on. But anyway they started keeping track of people and their time on the royal labor project. And if you were brought from a distance you were brought by boat. So can you imagine floating down the Nile and say you're working on Khafre's Pyramid, and you float past the great pyramid of Meidum and the Pyramids of Dashur, and my God, you've never seen anything like this. These are the hugest things. We're talking about a society where they didn't have cameras, you didn't see yourself age. You didn't see great images. And so here are these stupendous, gigantic things thrusted up to the sky, polished white limestone, blazing in the sunshine. And then they go on down to Giza and they come around this corner, actually the corner of the Wall of the Crow right into the harbor, and there's Khufu, the biggest thing on the planet actually in the way of a building until the turn of the century -- our century. And you see, for the first time in your life, not a few hundred, but thousands, probably, of workers and people and industries of all kinds. And you're rotated into this experience and you serve in your respective crew, gang, phyles and division, and then you're rotated out and you go back because you have your own large household to whom you are assigned on a kind of an estate organized society. You have your own village, maybe you even have your own land that you're responsible for. So you're rotated back but you're not the same. You have seen the central principle of the first nation state in our planet's history, the pyramids, the centralization, this organization. And so they must have been powerful socializing forces.

Anyway, we think that that was the experience of the raw recruits. But there must have been a cadre of very seasoned laborers who really knew how to cut stone so fine that you could join them without getting a razor blade in between. And perhaps they were the stone cutters and setters, and the experienced quarry men at the quarry wall. And the people who rotated in and out were those doing all the different raw labor, not only the schlepping of the stone but preparing gypsum and we don't know to what extent the other industries were also organized in the phyles system. But it's quite an amazing picture. And one of the things that really is motivating me now is the question of what vision of society is suggested by a pyramid like Khufu's? Was it in fact coercive? Was it a militaristic kind of state WPA project? Or is it possible that we could find evidence that would bring Egypt into line with what we know of other traditional ancient societies. Like when the Inca build a bridge, and every household winds its twine together, and the twine of all the households in the village are wound into the villages' contribution to the rope. And the rope on the great day of bridge building is wound into a great cable. And all the villages' cables are wound into this virtual bridge. Or in Mesopotamia we know that they built city walls, great mud brick city walls, by the clans turning out and giving their contribution, a kind of organic, natural community involvement in the building project. I wonder if that wasn't the case with the Great Pyramid of Khufu. You know, it's almost like an Amish barnraising. But you know, the Great Pyramid of Khufu is one hell of a barn.

NOVA: Some of the theories of who built the pyramids suggest that the builders may not have been from Egypt. Can you respond to that?

LEHNER: One thing that strikes me when I read about these ideas -- that it couldn't have been the Egyptians who built the pyramids, it couldn't have been the Egyptians who built the Sphinx, of the 4th Dynasty, it had to have been an older civilization. And I think about those claims and then I look at the marvelous statue of Khafre with the Horus falcon at the back of his head. I look at the sublime ship of Khufu that was found buried south of the pyramid. And we know that these objects date from the time of Khafre and Khufu, and I think, my God, this was a great civilization. This was as great as it comes in terms of art and sculpture and building ships from any place in the planet, in the whole repertoire of ancient cultures. Why is there such a need to look for yet another culture, to say 'No, it wasn't these people, it was some civilization that's lost, even older.' And to some extent I think we feel the need to look for a lost civilization on time's other horizon because we feel lost in our civilization and somehow we don't want to face the little man behind the curtain as you had in "The Wizard of Oz." We want the great and powerful wizard with all the sound and fury. You know, go get me the broomstick of the wicked witch of the west. We want that sound and fury. We always want more out of the past than it really is.

do there exictes any soulmates ( for me?)
will there be a girl who will love me as much as I do
these days I have been dumped, I just don't feel good

@nnabiollahi
there is no such thing as a perfect mate. we accept the person who we love as they are and we should make the most out of what is given to us. if you are still looking for that right person, don't bother, let him/her come to you instead and be attentive... for the right person may come anytime and you might be too busy to notice because you are still searching for the perfect mate.

as for the other questions, i think we all exist for a reason. that reason may still be unclear but as we live our lives.. we slowly find the answers to our uncertainties. one more thing, being critically minded may improve knowledge but may dull our emotional and spiritual growth. sure we want answers to our questions about this world we live in, but i think no one knows for sure the facts. maybe soon we will find answers, but then again, only time will tell.

i wana know abut the city of atlantis:)

i wana know abut the city of atlantis:)
Atlantis and Lemuria

Atlantis, the lost continent which was mentioned by Plato, is often mentioned in various channelings. About 12000 years ago this continent is supposed to have vanished, but it seems that the memory and the lessons of Atlantis are bound to resurface in man's consciousness. As if Atlantis isn't enough many channelings name the continent of Lemuria as well, often together with Atlantis. That's why I have chosen to group these subjects together under one heading. Enjoy the parts (and don't hesitate to read the original texts)! At the end of the texts are some questions and comments.

The first text deals with Lemurian culture and their connection with Atlantis (St.Germain through Birgit Klein, 1995):

From Lemuria large amounts of people were sailing to the surrounding continents and established cultures in India, China and Atlantis. Also South America, Central America and a part of North America were colonized by Lemuria. These ships sailed by the use of antenna, made by a metal alloy, which could absorb cosmic energy directly. Or they were moving by the help of either crystal- or metal-batteries, charged on land before sailing. The power of the wind was at the same time used as a supplement, and this combination of charged divine energy combined with the wind-power is the best way for creating energy for humans on planets. Human beings in the developed civilizations will again begin to utilize these methods, but many of them will believe, that they as the masters of creation for the first time are manifesting this geniality. [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Germane through Lyssa Royal:

Atlantis and the Great Flood

We are going to begin our story by talking about Atlantis. Most of you are somewhat familiar with what happened in Atlantis. Generally speaking, there was a lot of extraterrestrial fighting going on during that time. There was also a lot human corruption going on as well. Many of you have already heard about the destruction of Atlantis and we are not really going to get to talk in depth about why Atlantis was destroyed because in some ways it is another subject. But we are setting the stage for the other information that we would like to present.
Now some of you are familiar with the Christian story about Noah. As the story goes, Noah was warned by a serpent and told to build an ark. Everyone thought Noah was crazy, but he built his ark anyway; as the story goes, because he built the ark he was able to save humans and animals. Now he built the ark at the same time as the destruction of Atlantis - the Great Flood.

Obviously, a serpent did not really tell him to build an ark; but as we previously said, the Sirians used serpent symbols to depict themselves. There wasn't just one Noah, but many humans around the planet who received the Sirian message to build arks, for the Sirians really wanted mankind to be saved. It is unfortunate to say, but the Lyrans did not want mankind to be saved. They were not going to tell anyone about the flood that was coming. To simplify the reason for this we will simply say that the Lyrans preferred to start over again with Earth and that is why they were going to allow the destruction of mankind. You all know the story about Noah and that he was successful. Many humans around the planet were spared from the flood and they were still able to flourish as a race.


To read more about the Great Flood and the possible places where the Atlanteans went, see: Possible origin of the white race

Furtheron Germane talks about Lemuria:

Tonight we have not spoken about Lemuria. That is a another long story. However, what we will say, simply, is that toward the end of the Lemurian civilization, the end of the Atlantean civilization was occurring, as well. They coexisted. The mystics of Lemuria knew that the end was coming. Knowing this, they also knew it was essential to begin preserving a lot of the wisdom and knowledge of Lemuria. They knew it was important that mankind eventually understand its star heritage. So the Lemurians began gathering all of this information and looking for a place to store it safely. The Andes of Peru were part of the Lemurian civilization, and the Lemurians knew that one very good place to secret those records would be in certain areas of the Andes, so they began seeking out natural caverns and power spots in which they could store some of the sacred knowledge. The mystics also began teaching the ancient Inca the mystical wisdom, for they hoped that the Inca would pass on the ancient wisdom throughout time. They also hoped that the Inca would protect the places where the records were kept. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

This book devotes a chapter to Atlantis. The Council of Nine's spokesperson is Tom and he speaks through Phyllis Schlemmer. A recurrent theme in this book is that of the 24 civilizations. In kolonisation you can find some information on the civilizations of Hoova and Elarthin. The people living in Atlantis are connected to the Altean civilization. On page 149 we can read the following (translated out of Dutch):
"...Atlantis went down 9000 years before the start of your calendar and it had started 32.000 years ago. That wat is called Atlantis, was a colony that had developed itself, and with which we (=other civilizations) have had contact. These civilizations translated technology from which new colonies were founded who took with them that knowledge and technology...They were in fact Alteans. They came from the civilization of Altima."
In July 1999 I read a marvelous book written by Robert D. Stelle which is called 'The Sun Rises'. The book was written in 1952 and talks about the beginning of a true civilization on the continent of Mu (=Lemuria) some 78,000 thousand years ago! I came into contact with this book via [Only registered and activated users can see links] At the end of the book a map of Mu is drawn. Notice the vastness of it and the overlapping of parts of Northern America, complete Australia and New Zealand.


Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation through Sheldan Niddle

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This new path is strewn with the gifts that many of you have either temporarily abandoned, or else have lost all hope of ever possessing again. It is a time for you to realize that a door presently closed to you in your reality is finally getting ready to swing open once again. This door has been closed since the latter days of Atlantis. It represents the gateway to the full level of consciousness that was dramatically torn from you in those former days. Now, the means as well as the methods to achieve your destiny are in the process of being presented to you. The next set of adjustments are ones that have the potential to open up some new and some forgotten capabilities for you. We ask that you enter this coming period with strong intentions and a firm commitment to see through what you have so far accomplished. (December 8, 1998)

A few months before an update began as follows:
Greetings! Today, we shall discuss the nature of Spirit and matter. These two elements are really one and the same. At this time of your year, you commemorate the destruction of two great civilizations. One — Lemuria — represents the full potential of Spirit in matter. The other — Atlantis — represents the limiting of this full potential of Spirit in matter. By taking this time to reflect upon them, you can learn the vigor and frailty of each ancient society. Your lifetime objective in this reality is to combine the lessons of both ancient societies and, from them, to create an even greater wisdom. This process is one that has been moving at a very quick pace since the latter years of the past decade. The moment is swiftly approaching for your inner, and up to now, covert, analysis of Lemuria and Atlantis to break the surface of your consciousness. By doing this, it can become an overt force in your reality. This sincere inner looking has produced the seeming chaos that currently surrounds you. It is also the primary source of the intimate longings that you have for inner harmony, true spirituality and a fulfilling sense of intrinsic purpose. (December 8, 1998)

In regard to earth electromagnetic field Atlantis has had its effects:
In regard to Earth changes, let us fill you in on what could possibly happen. Right now, your beloved planet is prepared to move into full consciousness. Its Schuman Resonance cycle now sits at 12.9978. The veil between the third and fourth dimensions is only less than a micron in thickness. Not much time is left for Earth's graduation. When your beloved Mother Earth graduates, it will arouse its many tectonic plates with one immense movement. Continents will be transformed in the twinkling of an eye. The "lost continents" of Atlantis and Lemuria will be raised from the oceans. The atmosphere will be instantly set for the return of the twin firmament levels. In short, your beloved planet will be drastically transformed. This time, as the various indicators now state, is drawing very near. Accordingly, we have drawn up complex plans for the mass evacuations of those areas that will be severely effected by these changes. As a part of the mass landings, we will help your population by preparing both permanent holographic environments beneath your planet's surface, as well as temporary ones in our many mother ships. In all cases, we will aim to preserve life on your planet and to ease your transformation into your new reality. July 7, 1997

Comments and Questions:

Germane, through Lyssa Royal says that 'The Andes of Peru were part of the Lemurian civilization' , whereas on the map from the Lemurian Fellowship Peru was not a part of the continent. Perhaps their civilization spread beyond the borders of their continent?

Every 12000 years we would enter a band called the Photonband for 2000 years. The last time we entered it would have caused the 'destruction' of both Atlantis and Mu. You could consider this as a 'galactic' event without any spiritual ties. On the other hand you hear stories that claim that the Atlanteans had abused their knowledge and the only way to end their malicious practices would be to wipe their civilization from the face of the Earth. The Atlantean souls would have to learn from their mistakes and they would have a second go, around this time.

The thing I cannot figure out now is the connection between the necessity of entering the high-energetic Photonband 12000 years ago, and the destruction of Atlantis because of 'misconduct': was it just coincidental? In other words: if the Atlanteans used their powers and abilities wisely, would they have been vanished anyway because of the influence of the Photon band? or, would they have remained if the Photon band wasn't there to accelerate the 'clearing'?

Ancient Egyptian Treasures in the Grand Canyon?
PART ONE

Suppressed Archeological Information and Metaphysical Paradox?
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On April 5th, 1909, there appeared a front page story in the Arizona Gazette. It told of an archeological expedition in the heart of the Grand Canyon funded by the Smithsonian Institute. (a full transcription of the article can be found at: [Only registered and activated users can see links] unclass/canyon.txt).
It is a rich story of finding a labyrinth of man-made tunnel systems high above the Colorado River, a virtual citadel filled with ancient artifacts, hieroglyphs, armor, statues of deities and even mummies. Anyone contacting the Smithsonian Institute will receive a polite "no records found" reply to an inquiry about their supposed role in the Grand Canyon.
The following narration shows how I came to be convinced of an exact location in the Grand Canyon that is a key to this story (regardless of whether the newspaper article is a hoax or not), and contains mathematical proof. This story also reveals an ancient cartographic code that led me to this conclusion, and the meaningful coincidences that unfolded as I pursued this mystery. The location is known as "Isis Temple" and is paramount in a well kept secret that is just now being uncovered in ways far richer and more important than material wealth. The cherished gem of Arizona, the Grand Canyon, one of the seven natural wonders of the world, contains a legacy and a link to a history known only by a few; suppressed not only by greed and politics, but by a forgotten code hidden right beneath our very feet. It is all beginning to come to light now.
I first came across the information about the newspaper article in 1998 via the WWW [World Wide Web]. To satisfy my curiosity, I went to the Phoenix Public Library, found the article on microfilm and made a few photo copies of it. I didn't give it too much thought at the time, other than mentioning it from time to time to people who attend free speaking engagements and classes I offer. As a 30 year independent researcher in the field of sacred geometry, (sometimes known also as hyper-dimensional geometry, living geometry, and alchemical geometry) and other related subjects, I found the topic relating to Egypt synchronistic, since a lot of my studies revolved around the ancient schools of thought and geometry of sacred sites and temples of Egypt. Like others, I thought it was rather odd, if indeed the article was not a hoax, that evidence of ancient Egyptians would be found in Arizona, of all places! ..... After all, the Egyptians did not explore the Americas, everyone knew that, and it was not taught in any school. We thought this also of the ancient Romans, until ancient Roman headgear, armor, swords, coins and other artifacts were found just North of Tucson, not far from Interstate 10!
Now that the subject has come up about suppressed information, if indeed that is what it is, there is a well researched book of 914 pages by Michael Cremo and Richard Thompson titled Forbidden Archeology, which can open anyone's third eye to a history of mankind that has never been taught, except in those 'mystery schools' so well cloaked in myth, secrecy and ridicule. Some good information can be found by searching the archives of [Only registered and activated users can see links] and also [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Then in October of 2000 I came upon another web site that had lots of information and photos of Egyptian hieroglyphs found a hundred years ago in Australia! The hieroglyphs were on the stone wall next to a cave entrance, and told of ancient Egyptian explorers getting lost and stranded, left to die in Australia. (see: [Only registered and activated users can see links] egypt/ egypt.htm).
At around the same time I happened to read in a book titled Ancient Secret of The Flower of Life, Vol. II, page 302, the story of two backpackers who ventured into the Grand Canyon. What they claimed to have found first, while on their way to a location known as Isis Temple, (see photo at: [Only registered and activated users can see links]) was a rather large pyramid made from the native rock. Once at Isis Temple, at an elevation of about 800 feet, they claimed to have seen several cave entrances, just as reported in the newspaper article. They also noticed that they all seemed to be sealed shut or destroyed, as if to keep everyone out. (the question here arises, why deliberate sealing of caves in such a remote, hard to access, area?)
Because they were also expert rock climbers, they climbed the 800 feet to the most promising looking cave entrance. Upon reaching the entrance they discovered that it too had been sealed off several feet in with native rock. They did notice, however, that the entrance seemed to be man made and that there was a 6 foot circular pattern clearly hewn into the ceiling. This story was told to the author of the book, and from the context of the material presented in the book and from the nature of the author's character, of whom I am familiar, I could not for the life of me imagine why such a story would be fabricated and told to him unless it were absolutely true.
And yet, Isis Temple (which can be seen from the South Rim visitors areas) is at least 40 miles from the location given in the newspaper article. So, if the newspaper article was not a hoax, and Isis Temple was the real location, the other location could have been misinformation to keep people away. Then again, if the newspaper article was a hoax, what then had the two backpackers stumbled upon? And why were extremely remote cave entrances sealed?
A question arises here also: why are there so many geographical locations in the Grand Canyon named after Egyptian and Hindu deities?
Then, approximately two weeks later, on October 13, channel 10 (one of our local TV stations), did a short segment on their weekly TV news magazine show about the 1909 article and some local people actively looking for it out at the Canyon. I contacted the producer of the segment and left my name and phone number, telling him to give it to a couple of the people he had interviewed, as I could supply them with this information regarding Isis Temple. At the very least they could go with good telescopes and look for cave entrances from the Rim to confirm their existence. Simple.
As of yet no one has called me back.
I plan to check the condition and strength of my old telescope and go there myself soon. A severely damaged disc in my back prevents me from an actual backpacking trip to Isis Temple, as the trip is extremely arduous and requires at least six days of backpacking in some of the most challenging terrain on the planet.
The next thing I did was call the "Back Country" information line (520-638-7875) at the Grand Canyon, where permits are bought for backpacking and extended hikes, both on and off trails. The lady was very talkative, polite and helpful. She even suggested two books I should read on possible routes to Isis Temple since there are no trails to it. Then I casually brought up the subject of possibly exploring caves I had heard about at Isis Temple and asked her if she could confirm their existence. Her reply was a simple, but emphatic "NO". Then a long pause. Then very curtly she said the Park Dept. was about to engage in a Canyon-wide research project into the bat population and habitation, to make sure they were not being endangered. Everyone was to stay out of caves she said. That ended our conversation. Interesting, but not conclusive.
In the meantime, this whole thing was getting under my curious skin a bit. I decided to approach the subject a little differently. I was going to see if there was a geometrical connection between Isis Temple and the Great Pyramid of Giza. Why the Great Pyramid? From my knowledge of sacred geometry I knew it to be a central figure in a planetary grid system. As a former, avid backpacker myself, and having some knowledge of cartology, it took me no time to get the exact longitude and latitude of the center of Isis Temple. I then began searching on the WWW [World Wide Web] for the exact coordinates of the center of the Great Pyramid in Egypt.
That's when things started to turn REALLY curious and informative.
My web search brought me more than I could have hoped for. It led me to the work of a man named Carl Munck. (see: [Only registered and activated users can see links]) Over ten years ago he had started doing a similar thing that I was attempting, but he had started at Stonehenge, trying to find a longitude/latitude relationship with the Great Pyramid. His continued work led to the discovery of what is now called Archeocartology, and the key to the system is using the Great Pyramid as Prime Meridian rather than Greenwich . What he had done was eventually find a whole code system that the ancient's knew about and had used in determining where to place sacred temples, and sacred sites. It is simply known as THE CODE, or Code of the Ancients. He has several books out on the subject, a newsletter and several videos.
From THE CODE we get factual, mathematically provable evidence that all ancient sites, megaliths, temples, stone circles, effigies and certain natural formations and vortexes across the entire face of the globe are very precisely located on a global coordinate system in relation to the Great Pyramid. (I know, this is hard to believe, but read on.) Not only that, but an ancient numerology system known as Gematria (used by Egyptians, Greeks, Persians, Babylonians, Romans and others of the ancient world) is used in the manipulation of the numbers that relates the numbers to other key locations, mathematical constants such as Pi and the radian, and the positions of the sites themselves given in the geometry of their physical construction.
GEMATRIA and THE CODE can be considered to be "whole brain" methodologies. In other words, both bi-lateral functions of the brain must be employed to reach applicable and functional results. Or, the left, rational/verbal/lineal, side of the brain and the right, intuitive/imaginative/non-lineal, side must work together, in much the same way as when viewing stereo-gram images, sometimes known as 'Magic Eye' pictures also. (Those pictures that were popular a few years back that looked like just a mass of colored dots when first seen, but after gazing in a particular manner for a while a complete 3-D picture or scene 'popped' out to your vision. Usually children and young adults have an easier time seeing the pictures because they are not yet as completely absorbed with just left brain, rational, thinking habits, and their right brain, creative, side is more flexible.)
THE CODE of Carl Munck dovetails perfectly with the planetary grid system and the related Platonic Grid Lines found by Ivan Sanderson, Bruce Cathie, William Becker and Bethi Hagens. The world grid system ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) is commonly known as the Unified Vector Geometry 120 Polyhedron. Interestingly enough, THE CODE also is applicable to the Planet Mars, when the North/South Prime Meridian passes exactly through the "D & M Pyramid", which is located in the Cydonia area south of the famous "Face of Mars".
Still with me? I hope so, because this is all mathematically verified.
Aside from the obvious question that this arouses regarding how such ancient people could have knowledge of such a system and implement if for thousands of years, (which, because there is no short answer for that question, I will not address here) there is also the question of how such feats were accomplished with so much accuracy without the aid of modern technology, like our Global Positioning System (GPS) which uses satellite telemetry and computer accuracy to achieve what the ancients accomplished with...what?
When this sort of question arises in my talks and classes, I pull out an object to demonstrate the dynamics of geometry and simplicity. It is a solid object with no moving parts or batteries, and it fits in your hand. It has a unique property about it that no mind on Earth, that I am aware of, can explain. (And it has been under heavy scrutiny by some of the best minds of engineering and physics at University levels.) It absolutely defies one of the basic laws of physics and motion. (And this is not my imagination! Just ask my wife.)
People usually gasp and don't believe their eyes when they first see what this object does. And it does this without high technology. I show it to them over and over again, and let them try it for themselves, and it always works. And the key to the object is in its proportions, its shape, its geometry...the mathematics involved. Plain and simple. (Ask me and I'll show it to anyone at any time, anyplace. It is not my invention and it has been around for almost 30 years, yet few people know of it.)
If you know the key to something, or have the something that employs the key, optional methodologies are available to use. It is obvious the ancients had optional methodologies in finding, plotting and implementing building sites based upon a longitude and latitude not all that dissimilar to our own. It is also obvious from the data that the ancients knew exactly where the equator was and employed it.
Another device that should be mentioned is a survey and navigational tool designed by Crichton Miller, who received a patent on it just recently in the United Kingdom. The device is nothing more than two pieces of straight wood formed into a cross with a pivot point where they meet, a plumb line coming down from the pivot point, and a semi-circular scale (similar to a protractor) attached. It looks very much like a Celtic Cross. It is very accurate and requires no batteries. (see: [Only registered and activated users can see links] cem130700.html for complete details.) A book about the device is due in the Spring of 2001. It is believed this device, or similar, was used in surveying for the Great Pyramid, and also employed as a navigational tool for ocean-going explorations. And speaking of accuracy, as well as complexity of problem solving capabilities with no complex technology or batteries, think for a minute of the slide rule and the abacus.
Anyway, back to the story here.... Well, now I had the longitude and latitude of the Great Pyramid, and a mathematical system for finding a relationship between Isis Temple and the Great Pyramid. But, I got lazy here.
I contacted Michael Lawrence Morton, who I had found through another web site. ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) (also [Only registered and activated users can see links]) I gave him the coordinates for Isis Temple and let him do the math and find the mathematical correspondences. Since Michael was very familiar with THE CODE, also familiar with all the mathematical constants and numerous other sites and their mathematical connections, and had also discovered and applied THE CODE to the local stars and astronomy (the Archeo-Sky Matrix), I felt confident in his abilities and expertise.
In his words, Isis Temple is a "...major....major site!!!" This he could safely say with confidence because the numbers related to so many other major sites, including the Great Pyramid, and with numbers typically accurate to complete whole numbers, to within 7 and 8 decimal places, and decimal harmonics from 7 to 8 decimal places!
The following is a brief synopsis of just some of the mathematical connections to Isis Temple. The search is still ongoing. Statistics relating to certain "dates of occurrences" and the Gematria of a personal nature that were found have been left out. The math proof of the following findings is attached at the end of this narration, with full credit graciously attributed to Carl Munck and especially Michael Lawrence Morton, without whom this search would have come to a dead halt.
Isis Temple is mathematically connected to:

slope angle of the Great Pyramid
grid point value of the Great Pyramid
derived height of Great Pyramid with capstone included
decimal harmonic of the East longitude of the Sphinx at Giza
decimal harmonic of the West longitude of the Chephren Pyramid at Giza
decimal harmonic of the tangent of arc-distance from Earth's equator to either pole
radius of Moon
ratio of radius of Stonehenge's Sarsen Circle and Radian (deg)
decimal harmonic of generic area of a circle
grid point value of the star Sirius, circa 2000 a.d.
grid point value of the star Regulus, circa 2000 a.d.
East longitude, in arc-min., of the "Face" at Cydonia on Mars At this point, it doesn't matter if Isis Temple is the location mentioned in the 1909 article. At this point it doesn't matter if the article was a hoax or not. Maybe it doesn't matter if archeological information has been withheld from the public (in this regard I am more inclined to believe it is a matter of information filtration brought about by a social process rather than a conspiracy). Maybe it doesn't matter if there are or are not sealed caves in Isis Temple. But I, for one, continue the search. There is still a vast treasure to behold that makes that which we carry in our pocket quite moot when compared to the big picture.

Archeocartographic findings of ISIS TEMPLE based upon THE CODE of Carl Munck and the ARCHEO-SKY MATRIX Code, mathematics and correlations found by Michael Lawrence Morton.

Location of Isis Temple N. of Equator and West of Great Pyramid, Giza: 36 deg 08 min 27 sec N. 143 deg 16 min 14.8 sec W.G.

36 x 8 x 27 = 7776 N. 143 x 16 x 14.8 = 33862.4 W.G.

33862.4 / 7776 = 4.3547325 G.P. (grid point)

4.353957151 (G.P.) = Pi x 1.177245771 x 1.177245771 ( 1.177245771 = ratio of the radius of Stonehenge's Sarsen Circle in British feet and Radian (deg.) .....1.177245771 = 57.29577951 / 48.6693441...also the decimal harmonic in arc-seconds of the West longitude of the Chephren Pyramid at Giza, the East longitude of the Sphinx at Giza, and the tangent of arc-distance, adding to actual statute mileage figure, in statute miles, from Earth's equator to either pole....6214.85528 )
4.353957151 (G.P.) x 248.0502134 = 1080 (248.0502134 = grid point value of Great Pyramid.....1080 = mean radius of Moon in statute miles, and 1080 is also the feminine gematrian number for alchemical fusion where 1080 + 666 = 1746 )
33856.37078 (W.G) x 57.29577951 x 57.29577951 = 10.31324031 ( 10.31324031 = decimal harmonic of the square arc degrees of a circle, the generic area of a circle, where Pi x 57.29577951 x 57.29577951 = 10313.24031)
10.31324031 = 4.3539557149 (G.P.) x 2.368705056 ( 2.368705056 = grid point value of the binary star Sirius, circa 2000 a.d. )

270 / 4.353957149 (G.P.) = ( Pi x 19.7392088) ( 270 is average number of human gestation days...divided by Isis's Temple grid point value of 4.353957149 = the grid point value of the binary star Regulus, star in the heart of the Lion constellation Leo, or 19.7392088 x Pi. Also, 270 = 9 x 30, and 30 is the grid point value of the intersection of 7th Ave. and Indian School Rd. in Phoenix, Arizona, which is where, on March 13, 1997, 8:30 p.m., the "Phoenix UFO" was witnessed to hover for 4 minutes. March 13, 1997 is 5764 days before December 21, 2012 a.d., end of the Mayan calendar. 5764.166073 is the derived original full height, including capstone, of the Great Pyramid in regular British inches.)

30 / 4.353957149 (G.P.) = 6.890283706 (6.890283706 = arc-minutes East of Mars Prime Meridian =longitude of "The Face" at Cydonia.) (see also: [Only registered and activated users can see links] topcities.com/farshores/mlmindex.htm for all of the above) Stay tuned for Part Two of Barry McEwen's article tomorrow.

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Ancient Egyptian Treasures in the Grand Canyon?
PART TWO : Alice & Dorothy at the Abyss


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The first article ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has been posted on three different web sites that I am aware of so far. If you missed that one, the links are given below, as well as additional links and the full correct link to Michael's web sites. By the response of the email Michael and I have been receiving it looks like we hit a nerve. So we continue with lots more math data to pour through and decipher, and some very interesting and enlightening information from some of the readers, some of which we can share (And some of which cannot be released yet at the request of the responders.) A radio interview is also in the works.

Let me first restate something for clarity sake so as not to confuse my intent or my stand in relation to certain aspects of this research. I regard that there is no conscious conspiracy, per se, by the Smithsonian Institute or the government, but rather that it is a condition of society in which information is filtered for the purpose of self-fulfilling prophecy and as a survival instinct. But then, I have been wrong before...just ask my wife.
Anyway...where to begin?
One email I received gave me a link to some information regarding the 1909 Phoenix Gazette newspaper article and the supposed Smithsonian connection that was researched a bit by David Childress ([Only registered and activated users can see links] gipsy/670/grandcanyon.html). Although interesting, what struck me was the photo at the top of the page...it was ISIS TEMPLE; in fact, the exact same photo that I had given as a link in the last article. It struck me that of all the photos that could be used of a portion of the Grand Canyon, and of all the different photos of Isis Temple, it was the exact same one. One prone to the values of meaningful coincidence will file this away for later use. For me it was yet another 'prompt' to keep focusing on Isis Temple. Are we really on to something here?
Another email response was from someone who suggested he would rent a double-seated ultra-light aircraft, take me along and we could do a photo recon of Isis Temple. Hmmm. I quickly wrote back explaining that the Grand Canyon is strictly a no-fly zone area. (really!) The only exception is rescue helicopters. (which I do not care to prove)
Another email informant told of an area in the United States where a film crew from Discovery TV was looking for yet another ancient site of some kind near where he lives. It too is linked to Egypt, but in a vastly different way. Maybe more on this later, after the site has been found and the claim to it is secure by this man who knows where it is and wants to take steps to protect it, rather than exploit it. Just another tall story? By the amount of verifiable evidence this man gave me it seems to be legitimate so far.
One man emailed that he had realized a connection between the height of the Great Pyramid and the ancient Hebrew calendar.
I just now, at this writing, received permission from a contact to release some information from him regarding a vast subterranean system in the United States that he has been confirming and researching with hi-tech equipment for over 10 years. I will bring that to light in Part 3 of this series. It will blow you away.
Last weekend I went to my tiny cabin in Northwestern Arizona. One reason was to check out my old telescope, the other reason being to spend uninterrupted time with some geometry papers I had just received from a man I consider to be a master geometer. He had just mailed me around 250 pages of privately printed, unpublished material that he has compiled during 20 years of research. Needless to say I feel very fortunate to have made such a valuable contact. This was not an email contact, but rather, someone I had tried for a year or more to try to contact. The timing of receiving the material and the information contained therein was extremely valuable.
So, my telescope proved to be too weak for viewing Isis Temple from the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. My cabin is located such that I can see the crest of a highway around 6 miles distant. Pointing at that spot, and viewing cars passing over the crest, I realized not only was this telescope not powerful enough, but that extremely clear atmospheric conditions must exist to see anything with any amount of clarity (you would have to be pretty lucky, or coincidental, to find such clarity at the Grand Canyon these days I am told) and also, the lighting conditions would have to be such that it would enhance any cave entrance you might spot.
By the time I returned on Sunday, the amount of emails from Michael on further CODE information was piling up quickly. We had decided early on that the research would continue if I were to supply him with more co-ordinates from, what seemed to be, key geographical locations within the Canyon. Isis Temple was just the first. I had gone to Phoenix's largest map store and purchased the best map I could of the Grand Canyon. It turned out to be 3 feet tall and 5 feet long, and a scale of 1:62.5k. Not the most accurate scale, I know, but I wanted one map to work with, not several. This I mounted on a large piece of heavy cardboard and placed in my garage and began finding locations and getting the co-ordinates. This map will also be valuable when I begin to work on the geometry aspect of this area from the positions I am finding.
Starting with Isis Temple, I began locating other positions that had Egyptian names. They were all in the same general location. I then fanned out and began picking other sites with Oriental, Hindu, Arthurian, and Roman names. Here is a list of the names we will be working with. It should also be pointed out that all of these locations are in the heart of, and comprise the heart of, the Grand Canyon area (the largest, widest area where tourism flourishes on both the North and South rims), and that Isis Temple is very well centered among all of the the sites listed below, which seems suspiciously symbolic. Also, these are basically the only names of geographical locations in the heart of the Grand Canyon.
Isis Temple, Osiris, Tower of Set, Horus, Cheops Pyramid, Ra, Holy Grail, King Arthur's Castle, Excaliber, Guinevere Castle, Elaine Castle, Masonic Temple, Freya Castle, Dragon Head, Little Dragon, Thor Temple, Zoraster Temple, Manu Temple, Buddha Temple, Deva Temple, Confucius Temple, Krishna Temple, Angels Gate, Solomon Temple, Sheba Temple, Tabernacle, Roma Shrine, Brahma Temple, Vishnu Temple, Shiva Temple, Vesta Temple, Diana Temple, Apollo Temple, Venus Temple, Jupiter Temple, Juno Temple, Pollux Temple, Castor Temple.
An inquiry into the history of those fellows who named the geographical spots in the Grand Canyon will tell you that they were named by the early explorers, and the names they chose reflected areas or periods of history and deities they had special interests in. That I can accept (on the surface).

But then I have to ask myself, if we accept the reality of the Global Grid System, and the CODE, and we accept the reality that over 80,000 sacred sites, monoliths, stone circles, mounds, kivas, temples, cathedrals and churches were built on the nodal points of this grid system, over a period of several thousand years, by people and cultures of extremely different mind sets, different beliefs and myths, different everything (on the surface), what "prompted" or motivated the shamans, priests, architects and builders to place their structures on these exact locations?

At certain locations these structures are built over other long abandoned, ruined sites and temples even more ancient. If we accept that reality, then we also must ask if that same "force" or "prompting" or "sub-conscious motivation" was at work with the men who named these sites within the Grand Canyon (if indeed we find evidence that these locations are also linked to the World Grid somehow). Are there sources in the deep mind (that perhaps the ancients personified as deities) that release, under certain conditions, knowledge and information normally not obtainable?

If it is non-linear information, then left-brain, rational linear thinking alone cannot process it completely or accurately. Are the myths and deities of the ancients their way of describing the 'prompts' of the deep mind and higher self? And are not possibly the names of these geographical areas in the Grand Canyon a "prompt" to gain our attention?

Very much food for thought. And I suspect this food is actually a 'bread'. I believe we are on a cosmic breadcrumb trail. I suspect it is a whole-brain bread-crumb trail. (remember the analogy of the whole-brain methodology of stereograms? where a picture pops out when the dual functions of the brain are working in sync? and each eye must focus on one of the two distinctly different overlaying random dot patterns for the brain to interpret?) [Only registered and activated users can see links]

I am also reminded here of the only hieroglyph in the entire structure of the Great Pyramid (excluding the cartouche of Cheops in the upper regions above the King's Chamber, probably left by workers during Cheops' reign). It is the hieroglyph for bread! It is located somewhere just before you enter the King's Chamber that contains the initiation sarcophagus. (here I must humbly admit that the concept of "bread-crumb trail" came from my wife...just ask her)

At this point I begin to think of our research as the development of Geomantic Cartology. I am beginning to view what we are doing is learning a language of Mother Earth (Isis is a mother goddess). Can it be that we are just beginning to see and understand a language, of sorts, made up of lines of force, like a vast geometric,crystalline-like network of energies, that the ancients were compelled to respond to sub-consciously or unconsciously over the many centuries of their temple building? And were some perhaps capable of 'tuning' into that language through the different methodologies through ritual, chant, dance, trance, or even psycho-active ingestion? Are we just now becoming aware, through our evolved left-brain function, of the energy grid that was once only sensed sub-consciously, or intuitively, or as an evocation of the pantheon of gods?

Can it be that "numbers are the links pointing the way to potential understanding of the unified field?" (a quote from Michael Lawrence Morton) If the numbers are the links, then is not the geometry the graphic picture of the numbers? In our age it seems obvious that our left-brain math and geometry, if melded to the right-brain intuition, is our key to the language of Mother Earth.

Once we begin to understand that language, of what will she speak?
We believe we know. But we will let you see for yourself as this story unfolds in real time.

SYNOPSIS of the CODE found in Tower of Ra:

36-08-27 North 143-20-8.809174825 West of Giza
36 x 8 x 27 = 7776 N 143 x 20 x 8.809174825 = 25194.24 WG
Grid Point Value = 25194.24 / 7776 = 3.24

The North latitude (7776) is exactly the same as that of Isis Temple....their distance North of the equator is exactly the same. The line between Isis Temple and the Tower of Ra forms a perfect parallel line with the equator. This tells me that this might be a unit of measure (between Isis & Ra) to be used later with the continuing geometry. It also might be a unit of measure for a radius or diameter of a circle. Or a unit of measure of a triangle or square. We'll see later, but it seems very significant for the geometry aspect already at this point of the investigation.

In the Egyptian pantheon of gods, Ra is the creator god, shown with a human body and a falcon's head. Resting on his head is a sun disc, encircled by a cobra. Ra is said to be self-created, and he created humankind from his tears. The sun was considered his body or his eye. Recall that Osiris is the husband of Isis, and that Osiris also exists in the Grand canyon. In fact, Isis, Osiris, and Ra form a triangle in the geometry of their location, with no other locations/deities within that triangle. Here is a link to short synopsis of the major Egyptian deities: [Only registered and activated users can see links] More on that as this unfolds.

For this next part please note that I had mentioned to Michael to keep in mind Nineveh's Constant. Because I knew somewhere along the line there would be a DNA connection to all this. See the next link for info. [Only registered and activated users can see links] Nineveh Constant is 195,955,200,000, or rounded off, 19.5 x 10 to the tenth power. (Keep 19.5 filed away for later) And also note that 1959552 is a decimal harmonic of Nineveh's Constant. What is Nineveh's Constant? short answer: it is a number that was found in the ancient Library of a King Assurbanipal, an Assyrian/Summerian King, in the capitol of Assyria, also known as Nineveh. Sumer was at a peak of its civilization over 6000 years ago. By using this number one can calculate, down to the exact second, the time it takes any celestial object, comet or planet in the Solar System to complete one full circuit around the Sun! short answer.

1959552 / 3.24 = 604800 (Nineveh Constant harmonic divided by Ra grid point value)
604800 / 25920 = 23.33333333 (result divided by Earth's equinox precession cycle in years)

23.3333333 / 7.3333333 = ( 10 / Pi ) (here, the 23.33333333 figure is being divided by the DNA/RNA "un-zip angle" of 7.33333333 arc-degrees [see Buckminister Fuller] resulting in a form [reciprocal, times 10] of the classic approximation of the Pi constant [22 / 7] )

It is important to note that the numbers and equations relating to Pi and Radian (deg.) etc. 'prompt' us to the perfect concepts of the circle , and in sacred geometry one of the axioms is : God is a circle, whose circumference is nowhere (infinite, limitless) and whose center is everywhere (holographic).

"We aint in Kansas anymore!"
Keep in mind that it does not matter if we are mixing up units of measure. In this methodology it is actually part of the process, because we are following the numbers as links, not the units of measure.

In other words: let's say we are lost in a forest and trying to find our way through, following vague paths here and there. We come to a fork in the path we are on and wonder which way to turn. Then we notice on one path there are 3 marshmallows. We follow that path. Then we come upon 6 pencils in the path. We continue on and then discover 12 spools of thread. At this point we feel confident that we are on a path that has been traveled before by folks of our likeness. We also figure out that that the NUMBERS of the items has some significance and realize it is a binary sequence. 3, 6, 12 etc. If this sequence continues we can safely assume that the next number of items will be 24. It does not matter what the items are, it is the numbers that start to make more sense and seem to have more significance than the items themselves. Although it was the items that caught our attention initially. We feel confident that there is intelligence and purpose behind the numbers (obviously moreso than the items themselves at this point) and also that we are on a path that will bring us through the forest, and at the same time, bring our attention to a set of parameters that we had not encountered before, but will surely enhance our potential somehow. Here we begin to wonder what the significance of the numbers are, and what the message is. Curiouser and curiouser.

For complete mathematical analysis of Michael Lawrence Morton's work see:

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im just wondering if GOD Created us, then who created GOD? How did he exist? and how could we possible know that WE are HIS SON????????

i believe in him and i do love him (GOD) but that question always bothering me. hope someone can explain this....

I m stil wondering whether the moon landing by the Americans was a hoax (if u dun understand wat i mean, kindly visit my thread).. lol...

I m stil wondering whether the moon landing by the Americans was a hoax (if u dun understand wat i mean, kindly visit my thread).. lol...

moon landing is really fake!!!

How is it possible that so many people do not believe in God



Well.....it's same like so many people believe in God.....

Well... I am a non-believer.....

Well.....it's same like so many people believe in God.....

Well... I am a non-believer.....

same here
i dont believe
i want to be sure

if it was proven than nobody would believe anymore,
becouse everybody knew for sure

but i do respect it though!:partyman:

im just wondering if GOD Created us, then who created GOD? How did he exist? and how could we possible know that WE are HIS SON????????

i believe in him and i do love him (GOD) but that question always bothering me. hope someone can explain this....

god sits in your heart
listen to it an you'll be ok:good2: